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America, Stop Moving West

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Re: America, Stop Moving West

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This has to be one of the sillier things I've ever seen. Highlighted in the article is Phoenix arizona in Maricopa County which is one of the most responsibly managed metropolitan areas in the country if not the world. More than 50% of the power derived from nuclear at Palos Verdes just 45 miles from the city which evaporates wastewater to drive turbines and provide cooling. Another 14% from solar. Plumbed grey water…

Maricopa County is the place that had the sheriff that was found guilty of criminal contempt for ignoring federal orders. I’m not sure if those sorts of attitudes exist there that I’d be too interested.

But far worse, it’s a desert. Nothing grows there. That should be your first hint to not try and live there.

Fresh water is the new oil. As a business you may be in good shape there as you’ll always be taken care of, as an individual I’d suggest you’re going to get the short end of the stick as supply tightens.

Re: America, Stop Moving West

#83

This has to be one of the sillier things I've ever seen. Highlighted in the article is Phoenix arizona in Maricopa County which is one of the most responsibly managed metropolitan areas in the country if not the world. More than 50% of the power derived from nuclear at Palos Verdes just 45 miles from the city which evaporates wastewater to drive turbines and provide cooling. Another 14% from solar. Plumbed grey water…

Maricopa County is the place that had the sheriff that was found guilty of criminal contempt for ignoring federal orders. I’m not sure if those sorts of attitudes exist there that I’d be too interested. But far worse, it’s a desert. Nothing grows there. That should be your first hint to not try and live there. Fresh water is the new oil. As a business you may be in good shape there as you’ll always be taken care of,…

It's not fair to say nothing grows there; Arizona is the world's winter lettuce provider. Irrigation is pretty standard. It makes sense to move water to fertile land.

Re: America, Stop Moving West

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

America is a country run by rich people for rich people, not a rich country. Saying "America is a rich country" is a classic demonstration of the difference between median and mean in statistics.

For US Median ~63k vs mean ~73k: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_Unit... Germany (typically used as an example of a wealthy country in EU) is ~49k mean (average), so US has higher median and mean income than Germany. One can get into services, etc, but still US is a rich country. Once you get much past north west of EU, things get decidedly poor. While situation is not ideal in the US, most Am…

You should know better, come on, income is pretty much bullshit when it comes to the rich. They don't make "income" since that is taxed. This has been true since Leona Helmsley and Cheers with the CEO making 1$ per year. The rich have wealth.

There was just a propublica about this. Anyone that knows anything about capital gains, stock options, etc (and I'm assuming you do since you are commenting on a forum run by a startup farm)

Re: America, Stop Moving West

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post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maricopa County is the place that had the sheriff that was found guilty of criminal contempt for ignoring federal orders. I’m not sure if those sorts of attitudes exist there that I’d be too interested. But far worse, it’s a desert. Nothing grows there. That should be your first hint to not try and live there. Fresh water is the new oil. As a business you may be in good shape there as you’ll always be taken care of,…

It's not fair to say nothing grows there; Arizona is the world's winter lettuce provider. Irrigation is pretty standard. It makes sense to move water to fertile land.

Not naturally, which I thought would've been implied. You can even sustain a major city in the desert if you pipe in water from other places that are already suited for life on Earth.

Re: America, Stop Moving West

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For US Median ~63k vs mean ~73k: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_Unit... Germany (typically used as an example of a wealthy country in EU) is ~49k mean (average), so US has higher median and mean income than Germany. One can get into services, etc, but still US is a rich country. Once you get much past north west of EU, things get decidedly poor. While situation is not ideal in the US, most Am…

You should know better, come on, income is pretty much bullshit when it comes to the rich. They don't make "income" since that is taxed. This has been true since Leona Helmsley and Cheers with the CEO making 1$ per year. The rich have wealth. There was just a propublica about this. Anyone that knows anything about capital gains, stock options, etc (and I'm assuming you do since you are commenting on a forum run by a…

Stock options and RSUs are largely taxed as ordinary income. There is a way to forward exercise options and save, but that’s super rare for non-founders (and only super successful at that). While I agree that the truly wealthy have ways to structure their wealth to reduce tax burden, vast majority work for a living and don’t have such perks.
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