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Re: GoDaddy SSL Cert Scam

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Post by newman314 »

CoffeeDregs wrote: post #60
fbuilesv wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't recommend DNSimple enough ( http://dnsimple.com ). Pretty straight forward pricing, nice one-click integration with stuff like Google Apps and they'll even give you a discount if you transfer domains off GoDaddy.

Looks nice, but it seems to have a significant price premium over GoDaddy (seems to be $14/domain/year + $120/year for DNS). Is the benefit worth the premium?

Actually, I've been using Cloudflare for the last couple of weeks and have been pretty happy with it so far.

Side benefits, CDN caching and threat detection/protection.

Re: GoDaddy SSL Cert Scam

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Post by jeffbozek »

CoffeeDregs wrote: post #32

Okay, I use godaddy for domains and DNS. Never had a problem with them. But these 'godaddy sucks' posts and the godaddy buyout are starting to worry me. Who would you recommend as a replacement for registration and DNS?

Shameless plug. My new startup Coffee & Domains does domain registration, free private whois, and DNS control for $10 per year.

https://www.coffeeanddomains.com

Re: GoDaddy SSL Cert Scam

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Post by phil »

So obviously they should disable auto-renew by default and start emailing you the day before expiry, right?

Except that's nuts -- many of their customer's certs would lapse before they renewed. That's so bad that most sites should even put up with the extra 30 bucks to reduce their risk.

Re: GoDaddy SSL Cert Scam

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Post by WettowelReactor »

This makes me happy that we decided to go with Digicert. Although not the cheapest their customer service is above par. We just got a renew (not auto-renew) notice 60 days from expiration. Not only where they offering a 15% discount on renewal but for every day early we renew we get 2 days added to the new cert. I.E. renew 60 days early on a 12 month cert and they give us 14 months.

Re: GoDaddy SSL Cert Scam

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Post by alifity »

CoffeeDregs wrote: post #32

Okay, I use godaddy for domains and DNS. Never had a problem with them. But these 'godaddy sucks' posts and the godaddy buyout are starting to worry me. Who would you recommend as a replacement for registration and DNS?

I am using combination of dynadot.com (domain registration) and pointhq.com (dns), so far so good :)

Re: GoDaddy SSL Cert Scam

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Post by wpietri »

RyanKearney wrote: post #8

>I called GoDaddy Support this Sunday afternoon. While it was a long distance call, I only had to wait about a minute to reach a person in their Billing Department. They were happy to refund me the $49.99 after I deleted the cert and sent me the instructions to disable auto-renewals I linked to above. This times 1000 I experienced this exact same issue. I was pretty pissed to say the least but I called, got a human i…

I called, got a human in about 60 seconds, and they refunded me as well as told me how to disable auto renew. I see no problem here.

Three problems: 1) You had to notice the price change. If you have never not noticed anything, then you might have gotten taken. 2) You had to have the will to object. Willpower is a limited commodity. Is vendor bullshit what you could best be spending it on? 3) Your time is worth something, and GoDaddy just wasted it because they can make more money that way.

At my company, our rough rule of thumb is that a technical person's time is worth $250/hr. (We don't pay them that much, but we care more about opportunity cost.) Even if GoDaddy's shenanigans only take 10 minutes, that's still $41.67 lost. And that's not even counting the fact that next time I do something with them I have to spend time figuring out how they're going to try to cheat me.

Dealing with asshole vendors is rarely worth it once you take everything into account.

Re: GoDaddy SSL Cert Scam

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Post by [deleted] »

citricsquid wrote: post #27
pavel_lishin wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I see no problem here. Really, you don't see a problem with their "better ask forgiveness than permission" tactic?

> Really, you don't see a problem with their "better ask forgiveness than permission" tactic? uh, isn't that what PG and all the other people here constantly say is what you should do in business?

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Re: GoDaddy SSL Cert Scam

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Post by wpietri »

unreal37 wrote: post #50

This isn't really a scam. I have dozens of domains with GoDaddy, as well as some of their other services. "How can I get the cheapest price" is a game we all play with them. Revision3 has a handy page with GD discount codes, and I've been referring to that page for years. I am helping keep Digg in business from the affiliate fees. Can we agree the "auto-renew" was not scammy? They didn't rip you off a year. Just remi…

This isn't really a scam.

Yes, it's a scam. The fundamental basis of a contract is a meeting of the minds. If people think they are buying a cheap thing and then it turns out to be expensive, then there wasn't a meeting of the minds.

It happens to be a legal scam, but that doesn't make it much better.

Re: GoDaddy SSL Cert Scam

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Post by alanfalcon »

jeffbozek wrote: post #82
CoffeeDregs wrote: post #32

Okay, I use godaddy for domains and DNS. Never had a problem with them. But these 'godaddy sucks' posts and the godaddy buyout are starting to worry me. Who would you recommend as a replacement for registration and DNS?

Shameless plug. My new startup Coffee & Domains does domain registration, free private whois, and DNS control for $10 per year. https://www.coffeeanddomains.com

The site looks nice, in general.

But "$10 dollars"?

"Click here to start a transfer. Just $10 dollars. As painless as possible."

Re: GoDaddy SSL Cert Scam

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Post by qjz »

pja wrote: post #77
qjz wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The root cert is not in early versions of Android, due to a bug. I'm not sure when that was fixed. Unfortunately, you can't update root certificates in these versions.

Are there any phones out there that can't be at least updated to Froyo now, whether officially or not? If you're geeky enough to want your own ssl cert then you're geeky enough to root your phone & install CyanogenMod.

I can't update my users' phones for them. Just pointing out that users stuck on older versions of Android, for whatever reason, may run into problems with the free cert. In the mail client, it will work if "TLS (if available)" is checked, but that's a departure from what other mail clients mean by that option.
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