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Why Can’t I Sleep?

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Re: Why Can’t I Sleep?

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Every time I read these things I'm surprised at how one sided and narrow minded these are! People in the nordics have existed for centuries with periods of 24 hours of daylight. The concept of natural light and sleeping with the sun is excessively stupid.

I always sleep with bright light on. Dreams become more summerly and happy.

Also I discovered recently that when tenting in mid-winter it is advisable to leave small ledlamp on. If you wake up in utter darkness, and you cannot remember where you are, panic attack can cause sever damage to the equipment. -- Double sleeping bags are the worst when zippers are not aligned anymore.

And yes. I have had a black bear stomping on my tent in Haida Gwaii. Yelling chased it away.

Re: Why Can’t I Sleep?

#83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, same goes for Vitamin D and Zinc. To know your Vitamin D shortage, take a look here: https://vitamind3-cholecalciferol.com/vitamin-d-deficiency-t...

That link is interesting, thanks, but it doesn't appear to be run by a medical professional and some of its advice directly contradicts the NHS' own advice ( https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vitamins-and-minerals/vitamin-... ) - I would suggest anyone contemplating overdosing vitamin D (more than 4000IU/100ug per day according to the NHS) should only do so under guidance from a doctor.

Yes of course, consult your doctor on any health related stuff.

Anecdotal: Around the time that I started my day job, I experienced light depressions during winters. For me it was just a winter-dip. I didn't think much of it but my then girlfriend (now wife) recognised that we got into fights much more often than during summers. She studied something along the lines of "Biology, Food and Health", and she thought I'd have a minor Vitamin D deficiency. I've started taking 75mg every day and after about 3 weeks I started seeing more vividly. I remember very well that when I walked out of the office during winter, even though it was near dark, I saw all colors much more bright and it was like a sort of pressure on my sight was gone.

Now, when I'm not in the sun during the day for at least 30-60 minutes (for maintenance in the garden, or working for clients during WFH in the garden), I take on avg 50mg (2000IU) every day and I've never had a dip anymore.

Re: Why Can’t I Sleep?

#84
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Always the same old advise. Sleep hygiene, exercise, caffeine. Anyone with chronic insomnia can tell you none of that really works. For me it's always been impossible to fall into a regular day/night routine, it's actually whenever I try to force it I'm starting to rapidly feel worse. So the solution has been to just flow with it, I sleep when I can, stay awake otherwise. It's fine and I feel good, the real problem t…

> Anyone with chronic insomnia can tell you none of that really works. True, but that is a self-fulfilling definition. For most people, that advice will work. For the minority for whom it does not work, they have chronic insomnia. It does not invalidate the advice, it just means that some people are out of the norm and need something else. That being said, I agree with you. We all would be healthier if we'd just slee…

Synchronization is important between parts of a composite system, this is why we have evolved to synchronically sleep, we even yawn together.

Re: Why Can’t I Sleep?

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Always the same old advise. Sleep hygiene, exercise, caffeine. Anyone with chronic insomnia can tell you none of that really works. For me it's always been impossible to fall into a regular day/night routine, it's actually whenever I try to force it I'm starting to rapidly feel worse. So the solution has been to just flow with it, I sleep when I can, stay awake otherwise. It's fine and I feel good, the real problem t…

The article is weak, but I don't think it reflected "the same old advice" exactly. It does touch upon circadian rhythm issues briefly, which from the sounds of it is what you're experiencing.

Most likely there are antagonists at play delaying your onset. Often either sleeping in late / excess time in bed, or anxiety, or blue light emitting electronics before bed.

Re: Why Can’t I Sleep?

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This prattles on too much about things that don't answer the titled question. The list of problems is fine, but also light on helpful solutions.

This guide is more comprehensive - https://insomniasos.net/, and Andrew Huberman's video on sleep is also quite good - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm1TxQj9IsQ

Re: Why Can’t I Sleep?

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> Super-sleepers like Joanne Osmond inherited a preternatural ability to thrive on only a few hours of sleep. But this genetic trait is very, very rare, so if you regularly sleep less than 7½ hours a night and suspect you might fall into this category, think again; chances are much higher that you are not only sleep deprived but also so used to living this way you can’t even see the problem. Interesting, I was under…

Elderly people often can't sleep much if they tried. I guess the "sleep pressure" side of the equation just weakens progressively. The average at age 70 may be around 6-7 hours anyway. So 4 hours probably isn't particularly abnormal by that point. Also wasn't Trump supposed to down diet cokes nonstop?

I'm definitely not elderly, but i've found I need ever increasing intensity of weight training to "tire out" my body over the years. The alternative is an intense day of production issues or high-stakes meetings to tire out my mind.

Re: Why Can’t I Sleep?

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Always the same old advise. Sleep hygiene, exercise, caffeine. Anyone with chronic insomnia can tell you none of that really works. For me it's always been impossible to fall into a regular day/night routine, it's actually whenever I try to force it I'm starting to rapidly feel worse. So the solution has been to just flow with it, I sleep when I can, stay awake otherwise. It's fine and I feel good, the real problem t…

Yea it’s really frustrating how everyone just assumes you are doing something basic wrong, as if you haven’t spent years on all the low hanging fruit. My body/brain simply will not allow me to sleep longer than 6.5 hours and that is often really pushing it. I have absolutely no signs of sleep deprivation. No daytime sleepiness. Every article loves to tell me how horrible it is for me, but there are no symptoms and no…

> nothing more I can do

Notwithstanding everything else you said, you don't know that for a fact. Some unlikely interventions can have a massive impact. Even if you're content with your sleep it doesn't mean it can't be improved.

Re: Why Can’t I Sleep?

#89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That link is interesting, thanks, but it doesn't appear to be run by a medical professional and some of its advice directly contradicts the NHS' own advice ( https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vitamins-and-minerals/vitamin-... ) - I would suggest anyone contemplating overdosing vitamin D (more than 4000IU/100ug per day according to the NHS) should only do so under guidance from a doctor.

Yes of course, consult your doctor on any health related stuff. Anecdotal: Around the time that I started my day job, I experienced light depressions during winters. For me it was just a winter-dip. I didn't think much of it but my then girlfriend (now wife) recognised that we got into fights much more often than during summers. She studied something along the lines of "Biology, Food and Health", and she thought I'd…

Interesting; a relative of mine was diagnosed with a mild deficiency and was told that it's very common in the UK - presumably even more so now we've all just spent the last twelve months stuck indoors. Seems like we could probably all benefit from supplementing at least some.

Re: Why Can’t I Sleep?

#90
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you say you cannot sleep, do you mean you didn't fall asleep for full 3 weeks a single time?

I end up lying awake until 4 am and then have some very very light sleep for about and hour or two. My Garmin shows me that I get no deep sleep at all.

check this out - https://insomniasos.net/, and Huberman's guide on sleep - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm1TxQj9IsQ
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