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I am an object of internet ridicule, ask me anything (2013)

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Re: I am an object of internet ridicule, ask me anything (2013)

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I once had a blog post go a little bit viral on HN, Reddit, Twitter etc, years ago. At first I was really worried about the negative comments, and tried to justify myself or make corrections. After 24 hours I was so numbed to it all, that I began to find the negative comments amusing. One Reddit commenter called me a "Incompetent fuckbucket" and I enjoyed that phrase so much that I ended up screen capping it and usin…

That's the most original insult I've seen in a while, drew a couple of chuckles...

Re: I am an object of internet ridicule, ask me anything (2013)

#83
post #40

“ After I posted, the message board thread’s climate changed immediately. Not unlike real life, people were complimentary and kind. Many people deleted their mean comments — one person was so embarrassed for threatening to smash my typewriter that he apologized to me, and then went through and started trying to make other haters apologize.” This is deeply familiar to me and is amazing to see in action. I regularly re…

It's truly amazing to me (in a bad way) how humans are on the internet. They don't seem to realize that other people are real people. There's something about a reply that snaps them out of it. I've seen it happen many times myself as well.

> They don't seem to realize that other people are real people.

It is hypothesized that there is a rough upper limit to the number of people our brains can naturally conceive of:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number

Of course, with effort, we can be mindful that in fact we are surrounded by millions of strangers, but it's not an instinctual emotional reaction. When in environment like sitting at home staring at a screen, it's easy to forget to do that cognitive work.

Re: I am an object of internet ridicule, ask me anything (2013)

#84
Typewriter in a public park? How about a backpack with an old school rotary desk phone, an analog to SIP ATA that supports pulse dialing, a battery pack, and an opengear LTE network bridge/router? Set up a folding table somewhere and make and receive phone calls. Or pull the whole rig out on the countertop at a Starbucks and have an important business call.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/174796261408?hash=item28b2ab4820:g:...

Re: I am an object of internet ridicule, ask me anything (2013)

#85

I don't know if there's a named maxim for this phenomenon, but something I learned on Twitter is that everything you say can be interpreted in bad faith. This can be done on purpose, or it just happens because there's not enough shared context to connect how you read something to what the other person was trying to say. (Also, while a picture still says 1000 words, I've never had less faith in the veracity of those w…

One of the best changes I made during the pandemic for my mental health was realizing that I was starting to fall into that mental trap too and deliberately deciding not too.

I'm not always great at it, but since then, I have started to try to interpret most things I read online as charitably as possible, especially when I choose to respond to someone.

As if by magic, once I did, I started seeing that the world was a more positive place than I had realized. So much of my perception of negativity was something I was creating in the process of interpretation. It wasn't in the data itself.

Giving people more of the benefit of the doubt does set me up to occasionally be suckered. I accept that as a worthwhile price to pay to give kindness towards the majority of other people who are acting in good faith.

Sort of like the value of money, society is what we believe it to be.

Re: I am an object of internet ridicule, ask me anything (2013)

#86
post #40

“ After I posted, the message board thread’s climate changed immediately. Not unlike real life, people were complimentary and kind. Many people deleted their mean comments — one person was so embarrassed for threatening to smash my typewriter that he apologized to me, and then went through and started trying to make other haters apologize.” This is deeply familiar to me and is amazing to see in action. I regularly re…

maybe why in person life is radically different, people don't get the same level of raw unfiltered toxic reaction

that said I really wonder how come our brain can be so destructively egotistical when behind a screen (or a car windshield)

Re: I am an object of internet ridicule, ask me anything (2013)

#87
post #40

“ After I posted, the message board thread’s climate changed immediately. Not unlike real life, people were complimentary and kind. Many people deleted their mean comments — one person was so embarrassed for threatening to smash my typewriter that he apologized to me, and then went through and started trying to make other haters apologize.” This is deeply familiar to me and is amazing to see in action. I regularly re…

It's truly amazing to me (in a bad way) how humans are on the internet. They don't seem to realize that other people are real people. There's something about a reply that snaps them out of it. I've seen it happen many times myself as well.

By writing this I'll contradict what I'm going to say, but, generally, not applying to this thread, I observed that many times people spend their precious time to write a reply instead of using it to better understand TFA.

Re: I am an object of internet ridicule, ask me anything (2013)

#89
post #29

Scene, hipster, emo, goth, etc. all but disappeared. Most of the people who would have fallen in one of the aforementioned groups a decade ago are now non-binary, gender fluid, etc. They found a way to tie their identity to their humanity so now it's bigoted to scoff and laugh at them. Have any social psychologists studied this phenomenon? It's a great defense mechanism that seems to be working quite well.

There are plenty of new ones all the time; egirls, fuckboys, vsco girls, streamers, influencers, incels, you can also be "basic", "based", etc... it's possible you're not seeing it as much because you're getting older and these are adolescent tribes

Re: I am an object of internet ridicule, ask me anything (2013)

#90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IE the Greater Internet Fuckwad theory ( https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19 ). The bitter irony is that originally, mods and admins on forums did what they could to contain this kind of behavior. Now it's actively encouraged because rage means engagement, and engagement means more ad revenue.

Honestly, with Twitter and Facebook actually being more noxious than anonymous forums like Reddit or HN, I'm not so sure that anonymity is the driver.

I agree with you and I'd take it a step further: I think there's considerable evidence that anonymity is not the driver.

Being out of range of immediate physical violence is probably a big factor, though. We have the "fighting words" doctrine for good reason.

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