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The person who the original tweet was referring to (it's not private; they admitted it), just tweeted a GIF about "witnessing karma". https://twitter.com/Prafulfillment/status/140093402468041523... EDIT: Reply on HN by the author: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27400221

>they admitted it

He's now denying that he instructed others on how to skip the line, although it's not really that clear of a denial.

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#82
I really hate what I've learned about my friends and acquaintances over this pandemic. I hate that I've learned who's willing to ignore public health guidelines, who's okay with cheating to skip the line, who's okay with pressuring family to do the same. It's just so...grubby.

Especially since my social bubble is so very privileged. Let's face it. The majority of us are in good health with cushy jobs. We can afford to stay home. We can afford to wear high quality medical masks. We could afford to wait the extra month for a vaccine. Besides, a month or two is nothing compared to how long many countries are going to be waiting.

I can somewhat understand why people act this way, especially if they're pushing their loved ones to skip the line. But I can't help but feel it's this view of "I get mine" that is so ugly. And for what? A little more freedom a couple weeks early? What's the point?

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#83

I hope Paul Graham takes a principled stand and tweets his support for Biggar. https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3Apaulg%20%22cancel%20cult...

Is Paul B getting kicked out the same thing as "cancel culture"? It seems like he's violated a rule of a voluntary group he was in, and was kicked out of that group. I know its subjective, but I don't think that's "being cancelled" in the sense that it's usually used. Its more like if you lost your diving license for speeding.

More like lost access to a cult for telling the public the cult leader is a liar.

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#84

The person who the original tweet was referring to (it's not private; they admitted it), just tweeted a GIF about "witnessing karma". https://twitter.com/Prafulfillment/status/140093402468041523... EDIT: Reply on HN by the author: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27400221

It has a real "snitches get stiches" vibe to it. You have no expectation of privacy if you announce (let alone advocate for, or instruct how-to) behaviour against public health policy _during_a_pandemic_. The contrast with people who have been working hard to match people with appointments couldn't be more stark.

It does indeed have that vibe, and irrespective of what actually happened - it makes him look bad.

If he was indeed talking about inappropriately skipping the line, then this guy is a bad actor. But I should point out that we don't have any idea - the situation could have been very misrepresented - and he could have done nothing wrong.

But given the public information ... this Tweet is going to come of 'Snitches Get Stitches' in a 'lacking in self awareness' kind of way, as opposed to the 'I was slandered and misrepresented publicly, and that can be very damaging, I'm glad this issue is behind us" kind of way.

Why are adults in the US using Twitter/GIF memes instead of finding thoughtful and mature ways of communicating this stuff? I don't like this evolution.

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#85
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I obviously don't know your situation, but there's a difference between giving useful feedback and just constantly bitching about everything. You also have to consider that maybe you didn't have the full picture, and there actually was a good reason for what was being done, even though that would be a management failure to not convey why something needed to be done.

I was always ready to be part of the solution, so I don't think I was being empty when complaining about things. But I have to add that I wasn't maximizing for appearing polite. I never cross the line of not being respectful, though. Indeed, the management could have a different idea of what was an ideal direction. I just happened to disagree. It was a very small company, so I don't think I had a lot of different inf…

> I just happened to disagree.

Did you continue to disagree after the issue had been aired and a decision had been made? That could definitely end up in the territory you describe.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

#86

I hope Paul Graham takes a principled stand and tweets his support for Biggar. https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3Apaulg%20%22cancel%20cult...

Is Paul B getting kicked out the same thing as "cancel culture"? It seems like he's violated a rule of a voluntary group he was in, and was kicked out of that group. I know its subjective, but I don't think that's "being cancelled" in the sense that it's usually used. Its more like if you lost your diving license for speeding.

How do you hear it being used? Basically every time I’ve encountered the phrase, it’s referred to someone getting fired, kicked out of school, uninvited from a speaking engagement or something similar.

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Snitches get stitches. I’d immediately sack anyone leaking private conversations like this. This isn’t whistle blowing. It’s violating the norms of communication like sharing things said in confidence as gossip.

Are you advocating illegally assaulting people for merely words?

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

#89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We don't have full information about this story though. It may well be the case that the YC founder called out for lying about his qualifications for the vaccine was at a vaccination location where there were zero lines and poor community uptake of the vaccine. Idle doses sitting around doing nothing. At this point, the US has so many extra doses that it is shipping millions overseas. Depending on the location and ti…

I live in Oakland. This incident seems to be back in early March. Back then the large vaccination sites were all listed on myturn.ca.gov (ie the Oakland Coliseum). They'd post new batches of appointments and they would be all booked really fast (within minutes or hours). But Curative was also running vaccinations sites in Oakland and Berkeley. They weren't listed on the myturn website, so people didn't know about the…

Hm. I'm not sure where the calculus lies on having a dose go slightly more slowly to populations that are more likely to get covid and/or die from it than quickly to young, affluent populations who are much less likely to die from it or get it.

I am sure that those decisions should be made by the state, not the individual 25-year old who decides that they are deserving of the vaccine now.

Also, many of those links that were floated around had equity codes embedded that were not supposed to be used by the general public, so would show appointments made available specifically for high-risk populations.

My general opinion is that people who skipped ahead in their 20s, especially in the Bay Area, were in the moral wrong.

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