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Re: It's time for us in the tech world to speak out about cryptocurrency

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That's not really accurate. For most people, they deal with financial institutions directly via the fiat onroads and offroads fror the exchanges. The fact that you can formally buy, exchange, and cash out of crypto with full banking support gives cryptocoins a veneer of Government support and legitimacy. The USA bans online gambling and ponzi schemes. Cyrptocoins are worse, because they include a side order of immens…

Can you (and your representative) please just leave me alone so I can harm myself with this "harmful technology"? Whatever the outcome, I'll take my chances. Please leave me alone.

These people really can't help themselves.

Re: It's time for us in the tech world to speak out about cryptocurrency

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These two resonated with me: > A lot of intelligent observers look at cryptocurrency, see that it makes no sense, and reasonably infer that they must be missing something profound on the technical level. Tech culture has a nice tradition of not deriding new ideas, but we need to break it here and speak out > [non-tech people] don't see the huge silent majority of tech people who know it's a scam. That's on us It is o…

> I'm pretty sure it's nothing but a pyramid scheme, but I always gave the enthusiasts the benefit of the doubt. So go find out? I’m quoting you here for the “pretty sure” part. Do a deep dive. I’be done deep dives on Bitcoin, Ethereum, Cardano, Monero, Nano, Iota, Hyperledger, BSC, Uniswap, Tether, Chainlink and cursory glances at dozens of other coins/tokens. I’m a tech guy. I work on an operating system/embedded s…

How have you done a deep dive on Tether and not seen it as deeply troubling?

Re: It's time for us in the tech world to speak out about cryptocurrency

#84
post #64

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> I'm pretty sure it's nothing but a pyramid scheme, but I always gave the enthusiasts the benefit of the doubt. So go find out? I’m quoting you here for the “pretty sure” part. Do a deep dive. I’be done deep dives on Bitcoin, Ethereum, Cardano, Monero, Nano, Iota, Hyperledger, BSC, Uniswap, Tether, Chainlink and cursory glances at dozens of other coins/tokens. I’m a tech guy. I work on an operating system/embedded s…

Yeah, U.S. household net worth is near all-time lows in Fed balance sheet terms and people think crypto is the scam: https://mobile.twitter.com/RaoulGMI/status/13987339019132641...

What does “in Fed balance sheet terms” mean?

Re: It's time for us in the tech world to speak out about cryptocurrency

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What’s the advantage of cryptocurrency over mpesa?

It's worldwide.

What fraction of all commerce is worldwide as opposed to local?

What degree of that difference, if any, is a consequence of payment frictions rather than other factors (say: most activity and interactions are local).

What preferences are exhibited by major international buyers and sellers for payment or credit systems?

Re: It's time for us in the tech world to speak out about cryptocurrency

#86
Bitcoin is giving people in hyperinflation environments like Nigeria, Argentina, Turkey an out to their oppressive and corrupt govt banking system.

If one looks at gold and asks themselves “why is gold worth 11 trillion dollars today?” How did it, over centuries and centuries obtain such a status?

Bitcoin has better properties than gold does. It’s more scarce, scarcity means predictability, and predictability gives rise to trust.

You don’t have to be a hardcore libertarian- I’m sure not- to appreciate a better version of gold, and what benefits that can have.

Also - the USD is used more for malicious purposes, paper money is actually harder to track than Bitcoin transactions.

Re: It's time for us in the tech world to speak out about cryptocurrency

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post #64

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> I'm pretty sure it's nothing but a pyramid scheme, but I always gave the enthusiasts the benefit of the doubt. So go find out? I’m quoting you here for the “pretty sure” part. Do a deep dive. I’be done deep dives on Bitcoin, Ethereum, Cardano, Monero, Nano, Iota, Hyperledger, BSC, Uniswap, Tether, Chainlink and cursory glances at dozens of other coins/tokens. I’m a tech guy. I work on an operating system/embedded s…

Yeah, U.S. household net worth is near all-time lows in Fed balance sheet terms and people think crypto is the scam: https://mobile.twitter.com/RaoulGMI/status/13987339019132641...

Something being wrong with the economy doesn’t preclude Bitcoin from being a scam. That’s a false dilemma you’re proposing.

Re: It's time for us in the tech world to speak out about cryptocurrency

#89
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Seems lobsided. Sure Bitcoin suffers from high fees, but it serves well as a savings account. We've also started accepting litecoin payments on our site: I set it up once, and forgot about it. With Paypal it's a never-ending rigamarole. I've recently closed my bank account, and started using something a bit more up-to-date (Revolut). I believe Bitcoin is the single biggest innovation driver in the tech sector right n…

> Sure Bitcoin suffers from high fees, but it serves well as a savings account.

Does it? Your Bitcoin "savings account" would have lost over 45% of its value over the past month and a half.

Re: It's time for us in the tech world to speak out about cryptocurrency

#90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not really accurate. For most people, they deal with financial institutions directly via the fiat onroads and offroads fror the exchanges. The fact that you can formally buy, exchange, and cash out of crypto with full banking support gives cryptocoins a veneer of Government support and legitimacy. The USA bans online gambling and ponzi schemes. Cyrptocoins are worse, because they include a side order of immens…

Can you (and your representative) please just leave me alone so I can harm myself with this "harmful technology"? Whatever the outcome, I'll take my chances. Please leave me alone.

The harm is not limited to you.

Electricity shortages: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/26/iran-bans-bitcoin-mining-as-...

Chip shortages: https://www.fxempire.com/forecasts/article/bitcoin-mining-ad...

Ransomware: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/bitcoin-extortion-how-cryp...

In terms of overall negative impacts, crypto is worse than ponzi schemes and online gambling.

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