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Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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Post by 1cvmask »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #71
asgreaves wrote: post #26

FlutterFlow cofounder here! We thought the HN crowd would want to see the generated code for FlutterMet, so here it is: https://github.com/FlutterFlow/FlutterMetSample/tree/flutter... We try to generate clean Flutter code that follows best practices – we have a long way to go, but we couldn't be more excited. Edit: Also, here's the video of us building it (in just under an hour): https://youtu.be/TXsjnd_4SBo

Of all the web based mobile app development services, FlutterFlow makes more sense as flutter has graduated to be a viable cross-platform development software and dart is well-suited for creating a visual programming tool. I'm excited to see desktop applications built using FlutterFlow as desktop support for flutter is fast improving. P.S. I've added FlutterFlow to my curated list of startup tools - https://startupto…

Can you add saas pass and acmelogin under security and identity management

Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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Post by weego »

novok wrote: post #54
tpmx wrote: post #47

I wish you success. I really like Dart and the concept of Flutter. However: I'm still waiting for a 100% Flutter-based iOS app published in the app store that I can try to make sure that it does not have any apparent jank. Yes, I know that Flutter 2.2 which launched a few days ago included tools designed to fight some of the sources of jank (e.g. bundling precompiled shaders) but after such a long time of promises fr…

My current idea of how to do a non-javascript multi-platform app strategy: Apple SwiftUI for iOS & macOS. Flutter for Android, Windows, Linux and possibly a web client.

Yes in my business that I won't specify ios (last 2 revisions) + web users account for over 92% of revenue, with a whole scattering of android versions and related hardware back to 4.4 making up the rest.

A native strategy for ios is absolutely worth the investment of resources and time and flutter will never cut it or be worth the risk of even a small % of users suffering some new bug.

Android gets whatever is quick and easy just to to keep the business ticking on that side so flutter is perfect.

Users do not and should not have to care or be exposed to your cost saving strategy.

Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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Post by fakedang »

kumarvvr wrote: post #67

I am conflicted about Flutter. Is it worth learning, over, say Angular (for web) or Xamarin (for mobile and cross platform stuff)? Flutter for web was just released after a long time in beta stage. It looks like a good language and framework, but I don't see many options for customization. And frankly, the UI composition syntax is tasteless, in my view (Compared to React, which is awesome, or Angular, which is verbos…

Flutter is much much better than Xamarin imo. And imo, it has been far easier for many folks to pick up Flutter over ReactNative, especially those coming from JS backgrounds.

That being said, the jank issues with Flutter on iOS make it a showstopper. And web and Windows Flutter is like in alpha.

Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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Post by fakedang »

swyx wrote: post #52
sgt wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, you generally always run into something that the company building your low code tools will need to cater for or fix for you somehow. It gives you so much grief that you might as well write and own your tools.

its not a binary.. first of all there are tons of people who have software needs who just dont have that option. Whats the solution, hire you? you're expensive, and you have your own backlog to deal with. *they are bottlenecked by you*. second of all flutterflow (and other code-exporting builders like webflow) generates code you can take over, so it can even be helpful to people who could code it themselves, all it h…

This. I tried out Flutter Flow a few days back. I was able to do a ton of boring design work very productively, as well as the Firebase integration gamut, but I can't see myself coding app logic with the existing setup.

Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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Post by gozzoo »

novok wrote: post #54
tpmx wrote: post #47

I wish you success. I really like Dart and the concept of Flutter. However: I'm still waiting for a 100% Flutter-based iOS app published in the app store that I can try to make sure that it does not have any apparent jank. Yes, I know that Flutter 2.2 which launched a few days ago included tools designed to fight some of the sources of jank (e.g. bundling precompiled shaders) but after such a long time of promises fr…

My current idea of how to do a non-javascript multi-platform app strategy: Apple SwiftUI for iOS & macOS. Flutter for Android, Windows, Linux and possibly a web client.

> Flutter for Android, Windows, Linux and possibly a web client.

Wouldn't Jetpack Compose make more sense for these platforms? It is native for Android and is similar to flutter for web and desktop.

Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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Post by tomduncalf »

novok wrote: post #54
tpmx wrote: post #47

I wish you success. I really like Dart and the concept of Flutter. However: I'm still waiting for a 100% Flutter-based iOS app published in the app store that I can try to make sure that it does not have any apparent jank. Yes, I know that Flutter 2.2 which launched a few days ago included tools designed to fight some of the sources of jank (e.g. bundling precompiled shaders) but after such a long time of promises fr…

My current idea of how to do a non-javascript multi-platform app strategy: Apple SwiftUI for iOS & macOS. Flutter for Android, Windows, Linux and possibly a web client.

I wonder how far you could get using something like https://github.com/carson-katri/SwiftWebUI or https://github.com/TokamakUI/Tokamak to render the Swift app to a webview for the other platforms... I’ve not tried it, I imagine there might be jank and limitations as SwiftWebUI is “a toy project” but with some work could be a legit option - I’ve run pretty bespoke and complex React Native applications as desktop apps via react-native-web and Electron and it worked incredibly well.

I do like the idea of only maintaining a single codebase, but of course it comes with significant trade offs. The idea of building for Apple-first but automatically getting a reasonable fallback for other platforms is quite appealing - as you say, for many businesses it probably makes sense to focus on having the most polished iOS experience possible.

Honestly I’ve been quite impressed with the end results we’ve got from React Native, but you are always going to be lagging behind the native platform.

Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

1cvmask wrote: post #81
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of all the web based mobile app development services, FlutterFlow makes more sense as flutter has graduated to be a viable cross-platform development software and dart is well-suited for creating a visual programming tool. I'm excited to see desktop applications built using FlutterFlow as desktop support for flutter is fast improving. P.S. I've added FlutterFlow to my curated list of startup tools - https://startupto…

Can you add saas pass and acmelogin under security and identity management

Sure I'll check them out, Get some feedback & then add it to StartupToolchain.

Thanks for bringing them to my notice.

Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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Post by TrispusAttucks »

asgreaves wrote: post #26

FlutterFlow cofounder here! We thought the HN crowd would want to see the generated code for FlutterMet, so here it is: https://github.com/FlutterFlow/FlutterMetSample/tree/flutter... We try to generate clean Flutter code that follows best practices – we have a long way to go, but we couldn't be more excited. Edit: Also, here's the video of us building it (in just under an hour): https://youtu.be/TXsjnd_4SBo

Congrats!

I see the web/index.html references a service worker that doesn't exist in the repo. Is this the case or am I looking in the wrong place?

Do you have a generated service worker file you can share?

Re: FlutterFlow: Low-code Flutter apps

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Post by halfmatthalfcat »

fakedang wrote: post #83
kumarvvr wrote: post #67

I am conflicted about Flutter. Is it worth learning, over, say Angular (for web) or Xamarin (for mobile and cross platform stuff)? Flutter for web was just released after a long time in beta stage. It looks like a good language and framework, but I don't see many options for customization. And frankly, the UI composition syntax is tasteless, in my view (Compared to React, which is awesome, or Angular, which is verbos…

Flutter is much much better than Xamarin imo. And imo, it has been far easier for many folks to pick up Flutter over ReactNative, especially those coming from JS backgrounds. That being said, the jank issues with Flutter on iOS make it a showstopper. And web and Windows Flutter is like in alpha.

> And imo, it has been far easier for many folks to pick up Flutter over ReactNative, especially those coming from JS backgrounds.

Would love more context around this statement because I would have assumed the exact opposite, especially when you have to use a completely different language.

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