Facebook Joins the Rust Foundation

Post by justapassenger » Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 7:46 PM UTC

amelius wrote: post #81

justapassenger wrote: post #26

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Who decides what’s good and what’s evil? Real life isn’t kindergarten, world isn’t black and white. Even for things that most of people can agree are good, you’ll have negative externalities.

It was just a suggestion without the details carved out. You could make it very explicit: X shall not be used for advertising purposes. In legalese, of course, so a judge knows what is meant.

Post by amelius » Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 7:52 PM UTC

justapassenger wrote: post #82

amelius wrote: post #81

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It was just a suggestion without the details carved out. You could make it very explicit: X shall not be used for advertising purposes. In legalese, of course, so a judge knows what is meant.

Define advertising purpose. Rust affiliated organizations are advertising (for example conferences are being advertised). Is only serving ads or also using ads not allowed? Given that almost every single company in the world is using advertising then it becomes a hobbyist tool. With serving - how about if I have a page/app that includes ads served by third party (like most of the world does). Does it make it also off…

Post by lacker » Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 8:21 PM UTC

meragrin_ wrote: post #39

lacker wrote: post #14

This is a great step for the Rust Foundation and a sign that Rust is transitioning successfully to a foundation model rather than a Mozilla-centric organization. It looks like some people are worried about Facebook's influence on Rust, but that doesn't seem like a huge concern to me. Facebook isn't going to want to influence Rust in any particularly "Facebooky" way since it's such a deep-in-the-infrastructure compone…

So Microsoft, Amazon, and Google being founding platinum members has little bearing on Rust transitioning to a foundation model which is not a Mozilla-centric organization?

Post by xiphias2 » Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 8:53 PM UTC

goodpoint wrote: post #72

xiphias2 wrote: post #47

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As for C, sure, AT&T is so much better than FAANG. C++ was also heavyly corporate. Python won over Ruby because of FAANG support (I personally like Ruby more, but as it's not supported by big companies, it remained behind in deep learning for example). Also NVIDIA has great Python support, which is really important for high performance software development. As for Perl, I just look at it as a stepping stone for more…

A lot of companies also contributed to Linux, but that's not the issue. The concern comes from having a *small* number of companies with a notoriously aggressive behavior controlling a project. Google is especially known for using products as weapons against competitors and drop them suddenly after a while.

Post by justapassenger » Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 9:12 PM UTC

amelius wrote: post #84

justapassenger wrote: post #82

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Define advertising purpose. Rust affiliated organizations are advertising (for example conferences are being advertised). Is only serving ads or also using ads not allowed? Given that almost every single company in the world is using advertising then it becomes a hobbyist tool. With serving - how about if I have a page/app that includes ads served by third party (like most of the world does). Does it make it also off…

This is why you ask a lawyer to write your license.