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Twitter is blocking tweets that criticize the Indian government

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Re: Twitter is blocking tweets that criticize the Indian government

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Post by oooooooooooow »

mrtksn wrote: post #49

The expectation that a corporation operating in India will not obey Indian laws but American ones is appalling. EU, Canada, China, Turkey or North Korea - if you want to do business there you have to respect their laws. “For profit US corporation fighting foreign government atrocities” is a deeply flawed idea. If Indians believe that they need wider free speech rights or other protections, they need to change their p…

Understandable you'd think Kinder was a German brand, but they're made by Ferrero, an Italian company.

Re: Twitter is blocking tweets that criticize the Indian government

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Post by manub22 »

Most of these type of tweets are just hoax and showing negative image of India, the PM, and the whole Corona Pandemic. Most of the images shows were from old incidents and programs, like the Kumbh mela pics. Thus most of these tweets are removed my the owners themselves either by uproar from followers, public or the government, what's wrong in that? People should not be using twitter for spreading lies, create panic among citizens and false news. And specially "The Wire" who has posted this news and is famous in spreading anti-govt news all the time !!!

Re: Twitter is blocking tweets that criticize the Indian government

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Post by elaus »

plank_time wrote: post #69
mrtksn wrote: post #49

The expectation that a corporation operating in India will not obey Indian laws but American ones is appalling. EU, Canada, China, Turkey or North Korea - if you want to do business there you have to respect their laws. “For profit US corporation fighting foreign government atrocities” is a deeply flawed idea. If Indians believe that they need wider free speech rights or other protections, they need to change their p…

Then why are people shitting over Google for attempting to created a censored search engine for China? I think the project was called Dragonfly.

I think it's fair to _criticise_ local companies that are giving up certain morals to be able to make business in foreign countries. This creates some pressure and forces companies to consider either keeping the users in your home country happy or to make profits abroad.

We just can't expect the foreign country to change their laws or the company to break those laws.

Re: Twitter is blocking tweets that criticize the Indian government

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Post by zaszrespawned »

0xmohit wrote: post #66

The government believes that hiding data is the answer to the problem. > “It’s a complete massacre of data,” said Bhramar Mukherjee, an epidemiologist at the University of Michigan who has been following India closely. “From all the modeling we’ve done, we believe the true number of deaths is two to five times what is being reported.” [0] A related comment [1] on censorship in India. [0] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/…

While this is your opinion, the pictures & words used in those tweets are not DATA either.. words like DEATH BODIES, and images of FIRE sound like social media at its best /s :)

Re: Twitter is blocking tweets that criticize the Indian government

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Post by zaszrespawned »

manub22 wrote: post #82

Most of these type of tweets are just hoax and showing negative image of India, the PM, and the whole Corona Pandemic. Most of the images shows were from old incidents and programs, like the Kumbh mela pics. Thus most of these tweets are removed my the owners themselves either by uproar from followers, public or the government, what's wrong in that? People should not be using twitter for spreading lies, create panic…

agreed. Just look at the words.. DEATH BODIES, FIRE images

Re: Twitter is blocking tweets that criticize the Indian government

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Post by drawkbox »

wtmt wrote: post #2

Note that these tweets are only hidden for anyone in India (not removed from Twitter) since these do not violate Twitter’s terms but are being forced off the platform by a government order. I wish Twitter would put up a better fight on this, but Twitter, WhatsApp and Facebook have been on the receiving end of criticism and threats by the central government, and it looks like Twitter chooses its battles to ensure its…

The information being blocked down the memory hole is just for the people that need to see that information. Concentration in the tech world to so few platforms is helping build that memory hole capability.

At least people outside can see that information, not ideal though. If we had more platforms and less concentration it would be harder to build these walls.

Re: Twitter is blocking tweets that criticize the Indian government

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Post by oooooooooooow »

dasKrokodil wrote: post #79
mrtksn wrote: post #49

The expectation that a corporation operating in India will not obey Indian laws but American ones is appalling. EU, Canada, China, Turkey or North Korea - if you want to do business there you have to respect their laws. “For profit US corporation fighting foreign government atrocities” is a deeply flawed idea. If Indians believe that they need wider free speech rights or other protections, they need to change their p…

>Imagine the other way around, German company selling Kinder Surprise Eggs in US TIL that Kinder Surprise Eggs are illegal in the US.

Yep, a result of legislation prohibiting food items containing inedible parts iirc! I always found it amusing.

Re: Twitter is blocking tweets that criticize the Indian government

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Post by hntroll666 »

kumarm wrote: post #55

I think there is far bigger issue than censorship here. Significant portion of Indians already think there is big conspiracy behind Covid19 and everyone (Media, Governments, Healthcare professions, Big businesses, Pharma) is it to "$Insert your conspiracy here". Now they see tweets being deleted just for being critical on government handling of issue. Doesn't that add fuel to conspiracy theories?

Are you under the impression that there isn't a conspiracy related to the virus?

Did Klaus Schwab say "The pandemic represents a rare but narrow window of opportunity to reflect, reimagine, and reset our world"? Did the WEF say "To build back better, we must reinvent capitalism"? Did Justin Trudeau say "this pandemic has provided an opportunity for a reset"? Did he repeat the words "build back better" and express support for such an effort? Did Biden and Harris say anything about that? Did Greta Thunberg? Did Cuomo? Did Pelosi? Did both Clintons? Elizabeth Warren? What about Johnson in the UK, did he ever express support for "building back better"? Jacinda Ardern?

The answer, of course, is that they all did, and far more rich influential bigwigs besides those. Do you suppose that they all simultaneously arrived at that wording independently?

Maybe you'd prefer it if we called it a "complex" theory? As in, the government wants more powers, the media wants endless crises to report on, the pharmaceutical companies want guaranteed income and protection from liability, leftists want to make sweeping changes to society and the economy according to their ideas about how the world really "ought" to work, etc.

Re: Twitter is blocking tweets that criticize the Indian government

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Post by themolecularman »

plank_time wrote: post #69
mrtksn wrote: post #49

The expectation that a corporation operating in India will not obey Indian laws but American ones is appalling. EU, Canada, China, Turkey or North Korea - if you want to do business there you have to respect their laws. “For profit US corporation fighting foreign government atrocities” is a deeply flawed idea. If Indians believe that they need wider free speech rights or other protections, they need to change their p…

Then why are people shitting over Google for attempting to created a censored search engine for China? I think the project was called Dragonfly.

Wasn't Project Dragonfly shut down by internal Google "activists" rather than by outside forces?

Re: Twitter is blocking tweets that criticize the Indian government

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Post by logicuce »

asiachick wrote: post #76
logicuce wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, it is hard to get those numbers correctly. COVID patients die because of multiple organ failure and unless the deceased was already tested and verified for it, you can't attribute the death to COVID officially. A lot of people pass away without showing visible symptoms or without realizing they need immediate medical attention for COVID. It would be good to have that attribution and that will require t…

Can't you just compare the average death rate to the current death rate? Unfortunately this site has no data for India https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid#excess-mor...

Exactly the point I am making. You can do the analysis and determine the scale but you can't change the official COVID numbers.

In fact, that is even the link you shared shows. It compared the overall death rate with the official COVID numbers and proved the numbers are conservative, in US. Of course.

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