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The Endless Acid Banger: algorithmic self-composing acid techno music

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Re: The Endless Acid Banger: algorithmic self-composing acid techno music

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Post by Supernaut »

sideshowb wrote: post #77
jmfldn wrote: post #58

This is a great project, well done. Algorithmic music is fascinating to me, I feel like there's a lot of untapped potential in the concept particularly with more 'complex' genres where higher levels of composition and structural continuity are required. This tends to work much better with loop-based genres but I'd personally love to do a side project on something that could write melodies from some sort of generative…

As someone who writes mainly loop based genres I agree and have thought about much the same stack of abstractions. Acid techno is a great starting point as it's not known for complexity, being traditionally produced with a 909+303+303, devices that support only a 1 bar loop (a genre with origins that predate wide availability of digital audio workstations). But like yourself I'm interested in more complex genres. One…

> 909+303+303, devices that support only a 1 bar loop

Ha, no, you can input a great deal more than a single bar into them. They were designed to let users store a variety of patterns, which can then be assembled into a traditional intro-verse-chorus song structure, if you so wish.

Re: The Endless Acid Banger: algorithmic self-composing acid techno music

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Post by teachingassist »

bamboozled wrote: post #48
meowface wrote: post #45

This generates much better patterns than any other music web project I've tried. Awesome work. If you had no music experience, snuck into a club, impersonated a DJ, and just pressed play on this, I think even without touching it, no one would notice anything's amiss. If you messed around with it occasionally, you'd probably get hired back. (And that's a compliment to the app; definitely not a diss of acid techno.)

Not really into this type of music, but I'd notice, it sounds pretty average. It's a cool project and concept, but people in the know would notice.

I like this genre, but I don't find this generated music satisfying. My brain is anticipating some 'rule of three', which I don't feel it's following and I therefore feel disappointment.

I'm expecting it to switch an established pattern up (more than it does) on the third repeat, just as I get used to it, and to have fractal-like layers of patterns, which I didn't observe.

Re: The Endless Acid Banger: algorithmic self-composing acid techno music

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Post by Rochus »

meowface wrote: post #45

This generates much better patterns than any other music web project I've tried. Awesome work. If you had no music experience, snuck into a club, impersonated a DJ, and just pressed play on this, I think even without touching it, no one would notice anything's amiss. If you messed around with it occasionally, you'd probably get hired back. (And that's a compliment to the app; definitely not a diss of acid techno.)

Maybe besides https://openai.com/blog/musenet/? The present solution is rather primitive; just a bit of random with time and scale quantisation; but some people seem to be quickly satisfied.

Re: The Endless Acid Banger: algorithmic self-composing acid techno music

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Post by sideshowb »

Supernaut wrote: post #81
sideshowb wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who writes mainly loop based genres I agree and have thought about much the same stack of abstractions. Acid techno is a great starting point as it's not known for complexity, being traditionally produced with a 909+303+303, devices that support only a 1 bar loop (a genre with origins that predate wide availability of digital audio workstations). But like yourself I'm interested in more complex genres. One…

> 909+303+303, devices that support only a 1 bar loop Ha, no, you can input a great deal more than a single bar into them. They were designed to let users store a variety of patterns, which can then be assembled into a traditional intro-verse-chorus song structure, if you so wish.

Doh I stand corrected :) Though still nowhere near as much potential for refining the end result as you get with a DAW. That's not to say live performance doesn't have value of course!

Re: The Endless Acid Banger: algorithmic self-composing acid techno music

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Post by nullify88 »

mekkkkkk wrote: post #80

This made me want to grind lap times in Wipeout 2097. The soundtrack and atmosphere in that game was really similar to this, and like nothing I'd heard or seen before at the time. It probably shaped my taste in so many ways. Fond memories! EDIT: For those sharing the nostalgia, it turns out that the composer of the soundtrack, Cold Storage, remastered it and put it up on streaming services. It's a two part EP called…

Nothing gives me the tingles like listening to Sasha - Xpander from the WipeOut 3 soundtrack.

Re: The Endless Acid Banger: algorithmic self-composing acid techno music

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Post by vesinisa »

I have seen plenty of AIs that supposedly generate music, but this is the first one where the results are actually plausible. This is not too different from what I remember hearing in the early 2000s raves. Only the sound-system back then was maybe a bit beefier than my meager laptop speakers. ;) Well done!!

I have actually been working all morning now with this as my background music. It is great.

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