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Hire me and pay what you want, just give me interesting work

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Re: Hire me and pay what you want, just give me interesting work

#81

Anything is interesting if you engage with it. And being bored is a state of mind. It's a fallacy to say "that's boring". The bored-ness is in your head, not in the task.

This is certainly true. Being bored to a large extent is a personal choice. Things can be as interesting as you make them, but it requires looking at things from different perspectives sometimes.

Re: Hire me and pay what you want, just give me interesting work

#82
post #49

So Francesco says they refuse to do technical interviews and says their CV and Github are proof enough. The CV shows experience as a freelance engineer at Apple for a bit, then an engineer for Samsung which they were made redundant from. Their GitHub is 3 projects, a python script, a breakout board and then a beta libary. They argue that's fine though because they'd work for £1/hr, but the real cost of an upfront hir…

I completely understand your point of view and I would think the same if I were you, but that's probably the kind of work I'm trying to avoid. I only have one life, and I just don't want to be paid to "stay around and do the boring bits", or at least not full-time and in an office. Just as an example, having to stay in the office if there's nothing else to do for the day was absolutely soul-crushing for me. I might b…

if you don't care about pay and you want to work on interesting projects, why not start your own?

people typically get jobs because they have bills to pay, not because it's fun. If you are in a position where you don't need to pay the bills with work, then you're in a great position and can have fun all day long - so why not just do that?

If you work on something that also turns out to be marketable then you might even end up with a viable business that you love working on.

Re: Hire me and pay what you want, just give me interesting work

#83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because no one owes you a job you like? It's great if what you're good at is what others are looking for. But outside of tech and math that's often a rare proposition.

Conversely, we don't owe anyone labor for uninteresting work. I suppose that's the beauty of having the freedom of choice.

I agree but for many the freedom of choice falls short when facing bills. Then one has to work on whatever pays their bills and it's exhausting enough to make the dream even harder.

I consider myself incredibly fortunate to be able to work mostly in greenfield projects. I worked really hard to get here and keep working hard to stay here.

Re: Hire me and pay what you want, just give me interesting work

#84
Consider academia. I have a very similar opinion to you about interesting work (less so about meaningful). I was working at Google doing web development even though I have a security specialty, everyday was like pulling teeth. It is just not worth it and I'm not sure it is sustainable for me. Academia has always been appealing because you dictate research direction. I ended up going from part time, to 80% time, to full time over a year and a half for a small company. My work here is mostly interesting and I'm happier than I've been anywhere else.

Re: Hire me and pay what you want, just give me interesting work

#85

Pay me what you want but possibly in cryptocurrency so I can commit tax evasion should be the title

Haha, I thought of the same thing. Otherwise OP could get paid in fiat and exchange for cryptocurrencies himself.

Exactly and it would be much easier than finding a company willing to pay you that way. Also considering that currency exchange rates are pretty low these days too.

Re: Hire me and pay what you want, just give me interesting work

#86

This is interesting! My own anecdote: when I graduated from college I had zero experience aside from one internship at a small noname company. No one would hire me. I started reaching out to local companies big and small saying I would work for free if they'd use me. Not just programming jobs, but also general IT or even helpdesk jobs - anything remotely computer related. None took me up on my offer. I suppose they s…

It would not be legal for them to do that.

Re: Hire me and pay what you want, just give me interesting work

#90
Caro Francesco,

What you propose sounds great but I think your article works better to find like minded people who share your thoughts (definitely count me in on that) than to find some work offers.

Maybe with HN's reach you would find something, but I think a normal contractor's pitch + vetting for interesting jobs would work best.

I would also recommend looking into building your own project

My way of dealing with this problem has been: - Do contract work and vet the work; worst case scenario, you can drop off with some notice and not much will change. I did some employee time but that was mainly to get benefits (eg. paternity leave) and some fixed money for a period of my life I knew I wouldn't be very productive in - Raise the price of my services; this tends to filter out the worst jobs, albeit VC funded startup and rich tech companies have plenty of money to waste on chair warmers. Established mid companies without funding doing something you care about and with a remote first culture (pre-COVID and post-COVID) work best. - Build your own project, add almost-passive revenue streams; outsource the boring bits you don't want to do - Save money and try to reduce your expenses so that your passive revenue streams need to cover less money (making it easier to survive on passive revenue)

Not a recipe for optimising for wealth, but for freedom.

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