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Re: Show HN: Compare news from the political left and right

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Post by watwut »

loonster wrote: post #70
gremlinsinc wrote: post #37

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I lean left but outside the Dem party I hangout /r/politics and lurk in /r/conservative and also checkout many socialist anarcho{communist|syndicalist|capitalist} and libertarian subs... I know what I feel is "right" and I feel confident I can tell B.S. I mean when the obvious goal is ...basically to make the op/commenter feel better about their "view" of the world then to me it's obviously something to take w/ a ver…

Reddit did a huge purge of conservatives in the past couple years (2020 especially). You will have to go somewhere else if you truly want a conservative viewpoint.

That is not true. There are conservative subs. And in the same purges, let leading subs were closed for the similar issues.

You however don't hear complaining on HR when leftist subs are closed.

Re: Show HN: Compare news from the political left and right

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Post by beardyw »

bryant wrote: post #56
makomk wrote: post #35

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I think that mostly shows the limits of their analysis. The Guardian is basically the left-wing paper in the UK; I don't think there's anything to the left of them outside of fairly fringe, niche, and very fragmented publications. Internal disputes within the left play out within their comment section, whilst the news section often seems to attacking the right wing as its main goal.

> I think that mostly shows the limits of their analysis. The Guardian is basically the left-wing paper in the UK; I don't think there's anything to the left of them outside of fairly fringe, niche, and very fragmented publications. Internal disputes within the left play out within their comment section, whilst the news section often seems to attacking the right wing as its main goal. This only reinforces the meta-po…

Your comment about the Guardian prompted me to check and it turns out there is a comprehensive page on Wikipedia. Who knew? The Guardian isn't on it but the Daily Mirror is - not sure I understand why since I would pretty much agree with you. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_left-wing_publicatio...

Re: Show HN: Compare news from the political left and right

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Post by loonster »

wffurr wrote: post #80
loonster wrote: post #70

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Reddit did a huge purge of conservatives in the past couple years (2020 especially). You will have to go somewhere else if you truly want a conservative viewpoint.

ITYM they banned people for posting content encouraging violence and harassment, violating the terms of service. It just so happened that some large conservative subs were engaging in that behavior. Curious, isn't it?

They banned quite a but more than that. * Bans for mentioning a news article that mentioned the site of Hunter Biden's laptop leak. * Bans for disagreeing with the mask policies. * Bans for posting COVID-19 studies that are different than what is mainstream. * Bans for posting articles of a politician that is also an admin. * Bans for discussing election fraud. * Bans for upvoting content.

The place has turned toxic.

Re: Show HN: Compare news from the political left and right

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Post by loonster »

watwut wrote: post #81
loonster wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit did a huge purge of conservatives in the past couple years (2020 especially). You will have to go somewhere else if you truly want a conservative viewpoint.

That is not true. There are conservative subs. And in the same purges, let leading subs were closed for the similar issues. You however don't hear complaining on HR when leftist subs are closed.

It's not the subs, it the individual users that were purged the most. Some for the most grievous sin of upvoting wrongthink.

Re: Show HN: Compare news from the political left and right

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Post by kolinko »

wffurr wrote: post #9
Hadjimina wrote: post #2

Hi all, I have the feeling that in the last few years all political discussions have become more extreme. People from the left think that all the people from the right are evil and vice versa. Our filter bubbles don't help with this issue. That's why I built "Their news". With "Their News" you discover news from the entire political spectrum without any filter bubbles. My recommendation is that you try out different…

Reading “their” news makes me scared and angry that people actually read this crap on purpose and presumably agree with much of it. How is that supposed to help pop filter bubbles?

I actially prefer reading the news from „the other side”.

I know very well news from „my” side from friends and the Facebook/twitter bubble, but I want to know the other viewpoints as well.

Even if 70-90% of it is pure crap, I found that often „my” side is just as guilty of ommiting parts of information, and presenting things with sometimes extreme bias.

Re: Show HN: Compare news from the political left and right

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Post by lixtra »

pdonis wrote: post #73
dguo wrote: post #46

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The Flip Side does this: https://www.theflipside.io/

> The Flip Side does this Only if you give them your email address, apparently. What's that about?

It’s a newsletter but you can look at their archive:

https://www.theflipside.io/archives

Re: Show HN: Compare news from the political left and right

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Post by Hadjimina »

loonster wrote: post #75
imiric wrote: post #45

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Exactly. The biases are per news source and actually constant: https://github.com/Hadjimina/perspectiveNews/blob/0c4c6a932a... I'm sure they are eventually updated, but making a general judgment per news source to show individual articles means it will occasionally be wrong and misleading for the reader. The name alone, "their news", suggests an us vs. them mentality that we could use less of these days. For once I t…

Could probably do this with just searching for adjectives. Instead of a right/left news display it would be a positive/negative display.

I had a version that tried to do sentiment analysis on the article text and display an emoji below it. The idea being that one a certain issue you might only see positive emojis on the right and only negative ones on the left (or vice versa). Buuut it did not really work out so I scrapped it again.

Re: Show HN: Compare news from the political left and right

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Post by crocodiletears »

kolinko wrote: post #86
wffurr wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reading “their” news makes me scared and angry that people actually read this crap on purpose and presumably agree with much of it. How is that supposed to help pop filter bubbles?

I actially prefer reading the news from „the other side”. I know very well news from „my” side from friends and the Facebook/twitter bubble, but I want to know the other viewpoints as well. Even if 70-90% of it is pure crap, I found that often „my” side is just as guilty of ommiting parts of information, and presenting things with sometimes extreme bias.

I was having lunch with a friend of mine recently, and he remarked that of his friends he had, I was the closest to being a Republican and he wondered what news site I read.

He was surprised to learn that my go-tos were generally to the left of what he read, for exactly the reason you describe.

If a story is getting attention across the spectrum, 'the opposition' is always more likely to capture the facts that you might miss.

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