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LulzSec supposedly claims its biggest coup yet: The entire UK 2011 Census

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Re: LulzSec supposedly claims its biggest coup yet: The entire UK 2011 Census

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Why would you be terrified? There isn't that much information on the census form - name, age, address, nationality and employer, roughly.

It includes information on income and health, those are the really nasty bits to have leaked as far as I can remember. Apart from the obvious ID theft risk.

Name and DoB of everyone in a household alone can make it much easier for someone to pose as you to say a credit card company.

Re: LulzSec supposedly claims its biggest coup yet: The entire UK 2011 Census

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Given LulzSec seems to post their hacks on twitter, that there's no way of validating who posted the PasteBin item and that the Office of National Statistics hasn't reported the loss, its probably best to wait and see something a little more convincing.

http://twitter.com/#!/c4marcus/status/83135821351370752

Full statement:

We are aware of the suggestion that census data has been accessed. We are working with our security advisers and contractors to establish whether there is any substance to this. The 2011 Census places the highest priority on maintaining the security of personal data. At this stage we have noevidence to suggest that any such compromise has occurred.

Re: LulzSec supposedly claims its biggest coup yet: The entire UK 2011 Census

#84

With the amount of hacking that is flooding the news recently, I would like to learn about database security. What are some good books/tutorials/videos on how to make databases more secure?

I'd recommend: https://www.owasp.org if you're working on the Web.

Re: LulzSec supposedly claims its biggest coup yet: The entire UK 2011 Census

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What info from the census would enable someone to steal an identity? From the looks of it there's only DoB and address in terms of personal info...

Childrens names & DoB, previous addresses, employment status, national insurance number. That info alone is enough for someone experienced to do damage.

Isn't that info relatively easy to obtain from most people anyway? Not on such a large scale of course.

Re: LulzSec supposedly claims its biggest coup yet: The entire UK 2011 Census

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With the amount of hacking that is flooding the news recently, I would like to learn about database security. What are some good books/tutorials/videos on how to make databases more secure?

I believe that most databases are secure, especially the open source ones. What you should be careful about is the things surrounding the database: the .php files (or whatever) that read/write the database, and the system it is running on. Basic security practice for the web: NEVER trust user input: check and recheck all the GET/POST variables, check that numbers are numbers, that strings are correct strings (they ha…

Another obvious weak point is not controlling access to copies of production databases. Developers getting access to copies of production databases full of personal info is terrifying, and yet not uncommon.

Re: LulzSec supposedly claims its biggest coup yet: The entire UK 2011 Census

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If true, this will be a massive coup and regardless of how they obtained the records, LulzSec will get all of the significant negative attention they so badly crave. I submitted my census info via the online form and given the amount of detail I included I would be terrified if that info was leaked.

Imagining that the release is true, this will do strange things for pay bargaining. Imagine if you could look up your colleagues before asking for a rise? On the other hand, I don't recall anything really horrific on that form. Enough data to steal my identity and take out a mortgage in my name, yes. Enough to embarrass me? no...

I can easily imagine looking up my colleagues salary, because here in Norway you actually can. (Well, you can look at how much tax they pay, and various websites convert that into an estimated salary)

I don't find it particularly interesting, though. People earn around what you expect them to earn.

Re: LulzSec supposedly claims its biggest coup yet: The entire UK 2011 Census

#89

So what's the worst possible outcome here in terms of the UK government's reactions? Fast-tracked arcane legislation to make security tools illegal like they are in .de ? Broadening the terms of hacking and increasing the legal penalties? If LulzSec aren't trolling the world and they do indeed have these records I would imagine there is going to be one hell of a shitstorm in the coming weeks.

I don't think so, this is the government that wants to pass the Freedom Bill: http://freedom.libdems.org.uk/

Re: LulzSec supposedly claims its biggest coup yet: The entire UK 2011 Census

#90

This was the first census where you could submit details online. I wonder if it was these records? Would be surprised if they had even finished scanning the paper ones yet, but the UK governments security record is not good. They contracted it to Lockheed Martin, who also do the US census, so presumably reused the software?

In all likelihood it was probably compromised through some other means than the software. I'm sure the software got a lot of attention in terms of security but surrounding systems were neglected.
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