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Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by Someone1234 »

ChrisSD wrote: post #16

The are a number of Windows settings for turning off what it calls "suggestions". Do a search in the Settings app for "suggest", click "Show all results" and see what comes up. Amongst them are: * Show suggestions occasionally in Start * Show suggestions in your timeline * Suggest ways I can finish setting up my device to get the most out of Windows * Get tips, tricks and suggestions as you use Windows * Turn off sug…

Aside: Search in Settings is a bad user experience.

If I search for "suggest", click a result, press mouse-back button: It loses my search results. I sent back to a blank index page.

So I have to search "suggest", find my place in the results, click result, back, search again, remember where I am, click, back, search, etc etc.

If you're going to make desktop software "browser-like" then actually commit. Don't add a back button but not have it act like a browser back button. Just obnoxious.

PS - On Windows 20H2/19042.867.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by EE84M3i »

zeta0134 wrote: post #79

Just this week, I discovered that even after installing Python from the official website, if you happen to run a script that executes "python3" instead of "python", you'll instead trigger an unhelpful link to the Microsoft Store suggesting to install python from there. Yes, the command line itself has ads for the store sprinkled throughout it. Later, when I needed to pull down the Rust compiler, I discovered that the…

Does OSX do this with the xcode tools?

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by stinos »

jonatron wrote: post #34

I spent hours at the weekend making a windows 10 image with as much bloat disabled as possible. It looks like after just a few days, Microsoft have given me more stuff to remove. I only use it for gaming, so maybe my efforts would be better spent on getting games to work on Linux?

By now there are plenty of tools out there which turn hours (I hope we don't have to take that literally? Unless you're not used to Windows and/or there's even more bloat than I know of) into a couple of minutes though. Check e.g. O&O ShutUp 10 https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10. Or else use an IOT or LTSC release or so.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by blowski »

Jcowell wrote: post #70
blowski wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. Apple Music, Apple Maps, Apple iPhone, Apple Watch, Apple iPad, Apple iCloud, Apple Facetime, Apple TV, etc. I'm pretty sure I see adverts for all these things on my "advert-free" Macbook.

Really where? I’ve never heard of adverts on a MacBook for their hardware at all. Only one is for iCloud and that’s if you got their 5GB limit. Other services for when launch the app for the first time and safari for when you use a browser for the first time that’s not safari.

* When I buy a new Macbook or upgrade the OS, I get a "walkthrough" of new features which tends to include integration with other Apple devices.

* Most Apple apps (e.g. Home, Messages, Photos, Maps, Podcasts, FindMy) advertise their integration with other Apple hardware.

* Only pre-installed browser is Safari, and the homepage is apple.com.

They might not be blatant, but I'd highly surprised if the marketing department isn't involved in their placement. They don't, for example, mention any competing products.

Also, there's no obvious reason Apple has to advertise the Apple Music subscription when I open the app to play my own MP3s.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by flyinghamster »

zeta0134 wrote: post #79

Just this week, I discovered that even after installing Python from the official website, if you happen to run a script that executes "python3" instead of "python", you'll instead trigger an unhelpful link to the Microsoft Store suggesting to install python from there. Yes, the command line itself has ads for the store sprinkled throughout it. Later, when I needed to pull down the Rust compiler, I discovered that the…

Even worse, you're paying to be spammed by Windows. This overly-creepy direction Windows is taking is, more than anything else, why I don't trust their recent seeming friendliness to FOSS.

Even Android doesn't get that intrusive, not that it's much better.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by zamadatix »

supercanuck wrote: post #45
zdragnar wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple's EULA prohibits you from installing their OS on anything but their own hardware- so they make their money there. Microsoft trying that would absolutely kill the company- either by lawsuit or people getting up in arms over anti-competitive behavior. They make a small amount every few years when you buy a new computer, and hope you'll also pay for their other software (or give them data, which is tantamount to t…

> ... so they make their money there. Microsoft, literally, sells Windows 10... for money.

Do you say the auto dealership has free gas because new cars come with a full tank? Apple sells MacOS for money just not à la carte.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by arminiusreturns »

EE84M3i wrote: post #82
zeta0134 wrote: post #79

Just this week, I discovered that even after installing Python from the official website, if you happen to run a script that executes "python3" instead of "python", you'll instead trigger an unhelpful link to the Microsoft Store suggesting to install python from there. Yes, the command line itself has ads for the store sprinkled throughout it. Later, when I needed to pull down the Rust compiler, I discovered that the…

Does OSX do this with the xcode tools?

Yes, and as a linux admin and user who is stuck on MacOS for work, it drives me absolutely nuts, even more so when people defend apple or microsoft with justifications that the other does it. They both suck.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by wpm »

EE84M3i wrote: post #82
zeta0134 wrote: post #79

Just this week, I discovered that even after installing Python from the official website, if you happen to run a script that executes "python3" instead of "python", you'll instead trigger an unhelpful link to the Microsoft Store suggesting to install python from there. Yes, the command line itself has ads for the store sprinkled throughout it. Later, when I needed to pull down the Rust compiler, I discovered that the…

Does OSX do this with the xcode tools?

No. At worst it prompts you to download and install the Command Line Tools (all actionable inside the prompt; it doesn’t use the App Store) if you try to run a command not included in the OS by default like `git`.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by EE84M3i »

wpm wrote: post #89
EE84M3i wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does OSX do this with the xcode tools?

No. At worst it prompts you to download and install the Command Line Tools (all actionable inside the prompt; it doesn’t use the App Store) if you try to run a command not included in the OS by default like `git`.

How is that different than what windows does with "python3"?
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