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Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by ravenstine »

sackofmugs wrote: post #6

This is honestly one of the first time I'm convinced in a technical sense to consider Firefox over Chrome. uBlock Origin feels as core to me to web browsing as Saved Passwords and Incognito Mode. That uBlock Origin can work better is like the browser itself being better.

I think Firefox's shortcomings are overstated. Often they're actually Mozilla's rather than Firefox's.

There are other things I consider superior about Firefox that Chrome has yet to implement:

  - Multi-account containers is a killer feature IMO.  I have different containers for banking, Facebook, a container for every email, a container for every Google/YouTube account, and so forth.

  - The option to enable canvas permission prompts and canvas obfuscation. (though there are some arguments that those make you *more* trackable)

  - Autoplay blocking and permission prompt

  - Pop-out videos (aka picture-in-picture) are awesome and make it easy to keep videos on screen while browsing other tabs and apps.

  - Built-in anti-fingerprinting

  - Blocks tracking cookies by default
I simply won't use a browser that doesn't have these things.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by stevewodil »

shmerl wrote: post #41
sackofmugs wrote: post #6

This is honestly one of the first time I'm convinced in a technical sense to consider Firefox over Chrome. uBlock Origin feels as core to me to web browsing as Saved Passwords and Incognito Mode. That uBlock Origin can work better is like the browser itself being better.

Never really got the appeal of Chrome. Firefox worked very well for me for years.

Yeah I never really got the appeal of Firefox. Chrome worked very well for me for years.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by amluto »

the_duke wrote: post #44
voxic11 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I want to point out that uBlock Origin is fully functional on mobile firefox which makes it by far the best browser on Android. Plus with firefox you can do fun things like disable the Wake Lock API on youtube so that you can listen to audiobooks or music with the screen off and ad-free.

My only complaint on mobile is that the UI for customizing settings is annoying, eg for allowing JavaScript. But that's the fault of Firefox. I'm always astonished how bad/slow the mobile web experience is without Ublock with JS blocked by default.

The desktop experience of clicking the drop down is not fantastic: no tooltips and no real explanation of what clicking the empty boxes does.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by xaos____ »

isatty wrote: post #21
grenoire wrote: post #3

Honestly, I can't really browse on my phone anymore. I'm... spoiled by FF + uBlock and I can't tolerate all the distractions. Will we ever get enough traction on either blocking mechanisms or stop shoving ads everywhere? Will the general public experience the pleasures of an ad-less internet? P.S. I'm on an iPhone, blockers failed me so far. Thanks for the suggestions fellas.

On an iPhone? I was a noscript user from 10+ years ago (I guess?) and I’ve been using uBo for as long as I can remember but isn’t Firefox on iPhone just a wrapper? Is it battery efficient? As a workaround I use a Pi-Hole (except, not on a pi).

Install Firefox focus, go to Safari settings, add Firefox focus as Content Blocker and Firefox ( Not Focus, the real one) will show no ads anymore. Works, because Firefox on iOS is mandated to use the Safari engine

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by freebuju »

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #16
grenoire wrote: post #3

Honestly, I can't really browse on my phone anymore. I'm... spoiled by FF + uBlock and I can't tolerate all the distractions. Will we ever get enough traction on either blocking mechanisms or stop shoving ads everywhere? Will the general public experience the pleasures of an ad-less internet? P.S. I'm on an iPhone, blockers failed me so far. Thanks for the suggestions fellas.

> Will the general public experience the pleasures of an ad-less internet? Remember how cable was supposed to replace ads on over the air tv? It was about minutes before it was all ads too. Streaming services are starting to get there but then the shows themselves are ads. And you have a scenario where Netflix and YouTube couldn’t exist in scenarios that didn’t rely on our bandwidth models and massive anti-competitiv…

> would pay for a no-bullshit internet

The money is in selling you ads, on a revolving basis. Not in you ponying up a subscription fee to not see those ads.

If it's not the ads, it's the usual FBI or whatever government surveillance program tracking you.

You are right on the solution however. Some ads and tracking are so pervasive (e.g smart TVs) that the only truly effective way to mitigate against them is to cut down on or eliminate your exposure to these devices.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

MacroChip wrote: post #76
crocsarecool wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can’t look up a recipe for boiled eggs without coming upon a 15 paragraph essay with ads in between each paragraph. It’s so obnoxious now. I don’t mind that people want to monetize, but it’s getting off putting when it is so obnoxious.

I made https://thisfoodblogdoesnotexist.com as satire. It uses GPT2 to generate blog content like those 15 paragraph essays.

Needs more paragraphs. None of them talk about how their kids are doing in school.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by paulryanrogers »

ravenstine wrote: post #81
sackofmugs wrote: post #6

This is honestly one of the first time I'm convinced in a technical sense to consider Firefox over Chrome. uBlock Origin feels as core to me to web browsing as Saved Passwords and Incognito Mode. That uBlock Origin can work better is like the browser itself being better.

I think Firefox's shortcomings are overstated. Often they're actually Mozilla's rather than Firefox's. There are other things I consider superior about Firefox that Chrome has yet to implement: - Multi-account containers is a killer feature IMO. I have different containers for banking, Facebook, a container for every email, a container for every Google/YouTube account, and so forth. - The option to enable canvas perm…

Strong agree on multi account containers. Keep in mind though if you disable them they drop all settings, unlike every other add-on ... ever. Bug is three years old but maybe we can push it over the top: https://github.com/mozilla/multi-account-containers/issues/1...

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by atomicnumber3 »

sackofmugs wrote: post #6

This is honestly one of the first time I'm convinced in a technical sense to consider Firefox over Chrome. uBlock Origin feels as core to me to web browsing as Saved Passwords and Incognito Mode. That uBlock Origin can work better is like the browser itself being better.

I just recently (few months ago) switched over to FF from Chrom(e|ium). What pushed me was Google, on short notice, revoking all Sync API keys from all Linux distros, and I'll be damned if I'm going to use software that's as important as my browser from a source like the AUR. The AUR is great mind you, and for a small number of things I accept the risks and burdens that come with using it (auditing the PKGBUILDs on updates etc), but for browser software I just won't on principle. I want that from my distro's packagers.

It's been fine so far. The biggest annoyance is that Firefox on iOS struggles a lot with form autofilling, and I don't think credit card autofill is allowed at all. You'd think this would be a minor annoyance (don't most sites save your payments methods?) but it's honestly been a big issue. So many sites are so broken on mobile that I actually can't create an account from mobile, and barely function well enough to get through the guest checkout flow.

Examples: Jersey Mike's (sub sandwich shop), and another local deli place that's too local for me to name without letting everyone know I live in a cornfield.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by alpaca128 »

bilekas wrote: post #22
sackofmugs wrote: post #6

This is honestly one of the first time I'm convinced in a technical sense to consider Firefox over Chrome. uBlock Origin feels as core to me to web browsing as Saved Passwords and Incognito Mode. That uBlock Origin can work better is like the browser itself being better.

Firefox does seem to have really improved over the last few iterations, performance also when large numbers of tabs open. I cant find the link right now, but there was a nice timings done where Chrome was using less CPU at lower tab counts, but when it increased count, the CPU utilization was considerably higher than FF. I'll be giving it a fair shake for a few months.

Yes, Firefox is pretty much unbeatable in performance per tab. I just installed the tab counter addon and it reports that I currently have >1500 tabs open in Firefox. I know from experience that if I run just a tenth of that in Chromium the whole system will basically lock up. And as pretty much every other more conventional browser is based on Chromium nowadays there's no alternative really unless I get a RAM upgrade.
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