When the deal was announced, and before the videos were pulled, I archived everything
You should upload it all to https://ipfs.io/
Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes
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#82Joe should get on to LBRY / Odysee. It would be the tipping point in moving to decentralised platforms. He'd probably make a killing too as LBRY makes it really easy to tip content creators.
Why would he do that when Spotify gave him $100M and he isn't upset that they're doing this?
He probably is upset, but then he logs on to his online back and see the numbers, then he calms down.
It's only human, I would gladly do a lot of shit against what I believe in for even $1 million USD.
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#83I really hope this continues until I no longer have to hear the words "I heard on the Joe Rogan podcast..." followed by some fully anti-science nonsense from the overly credulous. That show has a lot to answer for.
Look on the bright side: people are talking about (and thinking about) topics they might not normally be exposed to. The blame for lack of critical thought skills might fall more upon our parents and educators than Joe Rogan.
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#84This website breaks scrolling (it's jumpy). For others experiencing it: this issue (and the floating top bar) can be fixed by disabling JavaScript.
I think it's because they have anti-adblocking tech. Imagine being media in 2021 and denying access to your site based on adblocking? I instantly close the site. What are they providing that I can't get elsewhere? What are they providing beyond the headline?
I am happy to close the site too. If they want to feed me abusive advertising they’re no friend and wouldn’t trust their info anyway.
Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes
#85>> Rogan, on the other hand, has confirmed that Spotify removed certain shows as a condition of their $100 million agreement with him. “There were a few episodes they didn’t want on their platform, and I was like ‘okay, I don’t care’,” Rogan shared in a recent interview with guest Fahim Anwar. It's part of their deal. Nothing to see here.
It's understandable. He's routinely allowed right-wing radicals such as Abby Martin and Gavin McInnes and Dave Rubin on his show. I personally would stop using Spotify if they started promoting such hateful content. Paradox of tolerance, etc.
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#86Whom does Spotify try to aquisice here? Their users? Their content creators? Or rather their staff? All 3 groups could be possible reasons. But given how little median content creators matter to the organization, users and staff are more likely. But if it were the users, then why buy Joe Rogan's users at all? Especially at a record braking price? This makes me believe it's more likely staff. If that is the case one h…
It's been reported in the past that it is staff.
Spotify has 5,000+ employees -- I wouldn't assume for a second that it's the tech workers doing this, I suspect it's probably HR and marketing and so on. It's a big bureaucratic organization.
I like to think if I was at Spotify, and I saw people holding the company hostage like this -- threatening to quit (or whatever) if they don't get their way -- that I would stand up and threaten to do the same if they do get their way.
If the only way to remove the ability of these people to make threats is to create a lose-lose situation for your employer, then you have a responsibility to do that. If enough companies see this happen and are forced to navigate a needless lose-lose situation, maybe we'll see companies take a harder position against advocacy and activism and politics in the workplace. If all else is equal, hopefully they'll be forced to take the position that they would have taken if nobody threatened anything; they'll fall back to their actual principles.
Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes
#87Whom does Spotify try to aquisice here? Their users? Their content creators? Or rather their staff? All 3 groups could be possible reasons. But given how little median content creators matter to the organization, users and staff are more likely. But if it were the users, then why buy Joe Rogan's users at all? Especially at a record braking price? This makes me believe it's more likely staff. If that is the case one h…
> Or is it rather a few employees who, emboldened by cancel-culture, will toss their political agenda around the office while other employees, intimidated by cancel-culture, shy away from calling out the obvious BS?
This is it. The intimidation is real; look at what happened to James Damore.
Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes
#88Whom does Spotify try to aquisice here? Their users? Their content creators? Or rather their staff? All 3 groups could be possible reasons. But given how little median content creators matter to the organization, users and staff are more likely. But if it were the users, then why buy Joe Rogan's users at all? Especially at a record braking price? This makes me believe it's more likely staff. If that is the case one h…
Investors and especially advertisers may also pressure to remove content.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you maybe have a graph of what the overall picture of content control by a handful of companies looks like over, say, the last 50 years?
No, do you? If there's an implicit argument in that question I'm not able to discern it.
It's probably that Spotify has less control than the big record labels did.
Re: Spotify continues to remove Joe Rogan episodes
#90Whom does Spotify try to aquisice here? Their users? Their content creators? Or rather their staff? All 3 groups could be possible reasons. But given how little median content creators matter to the organization, users and staff are more likely. But if it were the users, then why buy Joe Rogan's users at all? Especially at a record braking price? This makes me believe it's more likely staff. If that is the case one h…
Spotify bought Rogan because they want his average listener, it's cheaper for them to stream a podcast than to pay royalties on a song. They also don't want to have to answer questions about why a podcaster they (quasi) employ is doing X controversial thing. So that's what they do, they buy him and drop the controversial bits. It's not really that hard to understand is it?