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Are Hackers the New Luddites? [audio]

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Re: Are Hackers the New Luddites? [audio]

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Post by deeblering4 »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #59

I'm not against technology: I'm against inferior technology. I know what you can build with a computer: with a smartphone not so much. I don't see many professional sound engineers, architects, chip engineers, developers and all the myriad of profession requiring serious tools to do serious work working from their mobile phone or from their Internet-of-Insecure-Shitty-Poinless-Thing-with-a-3-inches-screen (yup, I kno…

Not disagreeing with you, but I do think there is something to be said about the platform provided by mobile tech. Artists can live stream themselves to massive audiences from their bedrooms.

And in the professional field iOS has become quite useful for music. As a couple examples, there are numerous iOS instruments (often with external midi control) made by well known companies like moog and korg, and live sound engineers are now remotely controlling mixers with iOS devices. It’s possible the next concert you go to will be sound checked/mixed via an iPad.

Also worth considering is that mobile accessibility doesn't necessarily produce the next mass-appeal mega star. I think in many cases it instead allows smaller subcultures to connect and form which makes for stars on a smaller scale. Popular streamers are a good example, well know by their fans but not a household name.

Re: Are Hackers the New Luddites? [audio]

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Post by barefootcoder »

IAmWorried wrote: post #6

Beside the point, but IMO, all podcasts should have a transcription option as well. I unfortunately just don't have the attention span to listen to hours of people talking, but put it in text format and I have zero issues.

I get a bit frustrated whenever a Google search for some how-to item leads to a YouTube video leaving me thinking "this should have just been text with some pictures", but I've come to the conclusion that it's all about the money -- content creators get paid more for video content, even if it's 80% "like and subscribe and listen to me ramble" overhead, and there just isn't a good place to host well-written howto content.

Re: Are Hackers the New Luddites? [audio]

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Post by kodah »

ethbr0 wrote: post #57
kodah wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right to source sounds strong, but I am curious about how a right to source for software that's no longer produced would work. This could be very beneficial to society, and perceivably speed up progress quite a bit.

IMHO, that should be seen as a tangential right to repair. Either the entity that sold you the software (or their successors) gives you standard access, tools, and specs to effect standard repairs. Or if that entity cannot fulfill that responsibility (say, because they went bankrupt), their code is open-sourced. The situation to avoid is "nobody cares about this thing, and nobody is available to service it."

On the facade, I like this. Hopefully someone advances these ideas.

Re: Are Hackers the New Luddites? [audio]

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Post by agumonkey »

DyslexicAtheist wrote: post #35
calvinmorrison wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My job offered to 'train' me in using salesforce, all paid trip with training etc. I switched jobs. Now I read perl for a living so who knows if I made the right move!

> Now I read perl for a living so who knows if I made the right move! I know it's fashionable to hate Perl these days, but I think this sounds like great and rare fun in 2021.

All the non trendy languages have loads to teach, even TCL forums were full of surprises. Perl talks (say damian conway on perl6/raku grammar traits) are so infinitely better than 80% of any trending topic.

Re: Are Hackers the New Luddites? [audio]

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Post by agumonkey »

bumby wrote: post #40
agumonkey wrote: post #8

I sense a trend https://getpocket.com/explore/item/what-happens-to-tech-work...

I think it’s the same process, just at a higher velocity. Jobs have always been at risk of obsolescence. Jobs either require continual learning (typically the “professions”, e.g., physician, lawyer,...) or were at risk for being irrelevant. In the past, the pace of irrelevance was often slow enough to span a lifetime or multiple generations so people could still make a (slowly dwindling) living. Now the turnover just…

One thing though, if even programming (a somehow advanced human endeavour) gets deprecated then something is wrong with our culture.

Re: Are Hackers the New Luddites? [audio]

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Post by busterarm »

pedrosorio wrote: post #38
busterarm wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone has gaps in experience. I've worked in both of these kinds of domains and different kinds of people thrive at doing each. The kind of problems you face are different. Most of the backend C++ types I've worked with aren't so great at "design for failure" types of environments whereas on the web development side of things I've found people are much more receptive. I'm working with a few hundred backend enginee…

> I'm working with a few hundred backend engineers who all have a hard time with thinking infrastructure is always available and can handle infinite throughput. Could you clarify this statement? Are you saying you work with hundreds of backend engineers: - who all believe infra is always available and can handle infinite throughput (???) or - who can't wrap their head around an environment where infra is so scalable…

You don't have to look hard to find stories of people running up huge cloud infrastructure bills by using it improperly.

Engineers in general poorly understand the connection between their code and resources consumed. Until something bites them and they learn.

I'd say that this is pretty widespread throughout the industry.

Re: Are Hackers the New Luddites? [audio]

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Post by irakojf »

inglor_cz wrote: post #20
nonameiguess wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I was tempted to comment that I guess I'm a Luddite because my reaction to seeing any link to a video or audio file is "please just give me text."

That is a new kind of Luddite, called Erudite :)

nice touch

Re: Are Hackers the New Luddites? [audio]

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Post by kragen »

barefootcoder wrote: post #82
IAmWorried wrote: post #6

Beside the point, but IMO, all podcasts should have a transcription option as well. I unfortunately just don't have the attention span to listen to hours of people talking, but put it in text format and I have zero issues.

I get a bit frustrated whenever a Google search for some how-to item leads to a YouTube video leaving me thinking "this should have just been text with some pictures", but I've come to the conclusion that it's all about the money -- content creators get paid more for video content, even if it's 80% "like and subscribe and listen to me ramble" overhead, and there just isn't a good place to host well-written howto cont…

I think it's that Google is better at filtering out spam on YouTube.

Re: Are Hackers the New Luddites? [audio]

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Post by irakojf »

IAmWorried wrote: post #6

Beside the point, but IMO, all podcasts should have a transcription option as well. I unfortunately just don't have the attention span to listen to hours of people talking, but put it in text format and I have zero issues.

Disclaimer: I am building an app in this space. https://audiograph.io

For me, this is pretty contextual. Sometimes I want to listen to audio when I'm on a walk or doing dishes. Other times I want text so I can skip the audio and save time. The more mediums, the better, personally speaking.

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