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Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

#81
post #41

> Download Focalboard from the Microsoft App Store. I am life-long Windows user and I am yet to meet someone who uses Microsoft App Store. A standalone regular installer is an absolute must.

I prefer it actually.. main reason is streamlined app auto updates

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

#82
post #41

> Download Focalboard from the Microsoft App Store. I am life-long Windows user and I am yet to meet someone who uses Microsoft App Store. A standalone regular installer is an absolute must.

I download all KDE apps (Kate, Kile, Okular, Krita, etc) from the store, if possible. The one big issue I discovered with that is that store apps can’t be set as default to open a file for a file format that the app didn’t specify itself (e.g., you can’t open an .NFO per default with Kate, as Kate doesn’t register itself as file handler for .NFO files)

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

#83
post #49
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've actually just started using Notion and the UI is nice, as is the feature set, but yeah, I'm getting a little annoyed by the constant page loads. I mean this kind of thing continues to fuel my beliefs that software is going backwards here because frankly, how hard can it be to render some text?

> how hard can it be to render some text? It really depends. If the only thing you care about rendering is US ASCII with a monospace bitmapped font, that's not too hard. However, a general purpose text renderer will have to handle things like directionality (left to right versus right to left text orientation), wide/half text rendering (for CJK characters), combining characters (for some European, South East Asian la…

Not just small caps – turkish has different case mapping for iİ ıI vs the ascii mapping iI.

There’s also situations like German, where, until 2017, a single lower case letter could map to two upper-case letters (but they wouldn’t map back to that single lower-case letter):

toUpper(ß) == SS, toLower(S) == s, toLower(SS) == ss, toLower(toUpper(ß)) != ß

(Since 2017 that’s been fixed, although not adopted by every publication or software yet, by using ẞ. toUpper(ß) == ẞ, toLower(ẞ) == ß, toLower(toUpper(ß)) == ẞ)

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

#85
The installation instructions for the server install don't seem to work.

> wget https://releases.mattermost.com/focalboard/0.5.0/focalboard-...

> tar -xvzf focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz

The file is actually a zip with the tar.gz inside:

focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz: Zip archive data, at least v2.0 to extract

$ unzip -l focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz

Archive: focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz

Length Date Time Name

--------- ---------- ----- ----

12461347 02-02-2021 00:38 focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz

-------- -------

12461347 1 files

Running tar directly (as written in the instructions) will fail with:

$ tar -tzvf focalboard-server-linux-amd64.tar.gz

tar: invalid magic

tar: short read

It seems like there's something unintentionally producing a zip at the end of the build process.

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

#86
post #41

> Download Focalboard from the Microsoft App Store. I am life-long Windows user and I am yet to meet someone who uses Microsoft App Store. A standalone regular installer is an absolute must.

Krita earned an estimated $4850 from Microsoft App Store vs $2000 in donations and finally allowed a full time maintainer, per this 2018 article https://krita.org/en/item/krita-in-the-windows-store-an-upda...

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

#87
post #54

Note: this, although self-hosted, appears to transmit your usage data without consent (just like the selfhosted Mattermost server from the same people): https://github.com/mattermost/focalboard/blob/main/server/se... Anyone want to offer me odds on the likelihood of a patch removing this spyware getting accepted by the maintainer in this “open source” project?

Apparently there's a config option to turn off telemetry. https://www.focalboard.com/guide/admin/

While I understand the feeling, it's also truth that these kinds of projects appear to receive a lot more criticism than if they went completely closed source which feels a bit unfair.

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

#89
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i think AGPL only makes that requirement if you give out YOUR version to users. If you are just using for yourself or internal team, AGPL does not require you to publish those changes.

AGPL doesn't make any distinction between public vs private use. If software you write depends on or extends AGPL code, it must also be licensed as AGPL, period. You do only need to offer the source code to users of the software, but that is still a burden, especially when all you are doing is updating config files.

If I use the software privately, can we just say that I as the only user distributed the modified code to myself automatically?

Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana

#90

https://www.openproject.org/ I am always surprised when people don't mention Open Project. Cos isn't this fragmentation? Open Project... - Have been there for a long time. - Good motivated team AFAIK, - Have forum software. - Project board - And even version control! Everything self hosted or enterprise/cloud for serious stuff or people who want to support them. Or is there some other reason why openproject is not kn…

On the licensing page of Open Project 'agile boards' is one of the paid features, so I don't see how it is relevant in this case.

Screenshots look good and it is nice to see that they have figured out a good business model for open source software.

But I don't like to see that 2FA is available only in the paid version still in 2021. Security should be at the core of these kinds of systems.

And I hope that maintaining it is much easier than other Ruby projects that I have encountered in the past. For example, I used to run Redmine project management system, and maintaining it up to date was painful due to fragmentation and differences between Ruby versions. Hopefully Docker and better migration scripts have solved those problems nowadays. Still, even with containerization available, when it comes to self hosted solutions I definitely prefer ones that get compiled to nice binaries. Go, Rust, C, etc.

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