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Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by baybal2 »

albertzeyer wrote: post #78
unionpivo wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was/am thinkpad user also. I have migrated to desktops. They are cheap enough to have one at the office and one at home. Sure the above wont work for everybody, but if you are like me, you unpacked the laptop at home and at work each day at exactly the same space, where all the cables and extra monitors were. I used to use laptop in coffee shops and outdoors, but nowadays between phone, and tablets (wel phone and k…

The downside with this is extra effort to keep them in sync. Depending on what you do, syncing can be easy (or even trivial if you do everything remote anyway) or more annoying.

Rsyncing home directory worked for me for 15 years.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by mrweasel »

jbverschoor wrote: post #53
simias wrote: post #44

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Apple can design custom everything and has the economy of scale to justify it. The PC space is also more competitive, Apple managed to associate their brand with luxury and charge a huge premium for their hardware, a laptop with equivalent specs would struggle massively to sell at the same price when you could purchase similarly powerful laptops for half the cost that would run the same software. At this point Apple…

It wasn't always the case. Also, Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc. have more than enough economy of scale. $1000 for the M1 air is not a huge premium. It's actually very cheap.

> It's actually very cheap.

Which is a huge problem for the competition. I know that I can get just get a cheap Mac and it will still be fast, it will still have a great screen and the build quality will be higher than the majority of PC laptops.

I happen to like macOS, so it's not a huge issue, but if I want to get a laptop for Linux, then I need to go to a store to see the models. Otherwise I can't be sure if I'll like the screen, keyboard or overall look an feel. The minor price difference for an Apple product is acceptable, given that I know what I'll getting a usable laptop regardless of which model I pick.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by Naac »

It doesn't look like there is a Thunderbolt port ( a 40 GBPS port ). I recall reading that it has something to do with it working on Intel only hardware.

But whatever the case is, lack of Thunderbolt is unfortunately a deal breaker. I've moved on to unifying all my docks and power chords to only be Thunderbolt. It's unfortunate because the Ryzen chipsets are clearly getting to be superior from a price/performance point of view.

EDIT: I am writing this as someone who supports System76, and has only ran Linux professionally and at home for the last 10 years.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by dkersten »

mattl wrote: post #8

I like my System76 desktop but I've had plenty of issues with their laptops, and I really dislike a numpad on a laptop.

> I really dislike a numpad on a laptop.

Was going to say the same.

Also, I will not buy a 1080p laptop. We're in 2021, give me 4K or at least 1440p or I'm not interested.

I also personally prefer 13" laptops for travel convenience. (Not that its a concern right now, but I assume one day it will be again!)

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by Fergusonb »

I can't speak to the 4700u or the pangolin specifically, but I can offer this perspective on PopOS/AMD:

I've been using System76's PopOS with my Asus Zephyrus G14 (4800hs) as a daily driver and I really like it. (freelance/web)

The battery life is comparable to Windows (on integrated graphics mode, it has graphics switching available)at 7-10 hours with 70% brightness and balanced power settings using VScode and firefox.

The g14 has a 75wh battery vs the pangolin's 49wh, so I would expect less battery life from the pangolin despite the 4700u having a lower default tdp, since the 4800hs likes to sit at around 6-10 watts when doing non-intensive tasks anyway.

In 2021 I'm not missing any major programs. It's pretty incredible how much is cross-platform now.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by encryptluks2 »

bluGill wrote: post #70
encryptluks2 wrote: post #57

I don't understand the appeal for System76. It seems grossly overpriced. Is it simply because they install Linux for you? You can find the same processor with much better specs for cheaper on Amazon or Costco.

With system 76 you get not just the processor, but also the other parts. You know System 76 didn't change network interfaces to something new with no linux drivers mid stream. Or Wifi, USB chipset, some BIOS, or one of the many other non-processor parts that manufacture change all the time. If there are drivers the substitution doesn't matter to anyone, but often there are no linux drivers for 3-6 months (best case -…

Costco list the model and the manufacturer provides all the information about the chips on their website. If you're running a distro with a 2 year old kernel then you may have issues, but I run Arch so it works flawless. I just got a Ryzen 4600 on Costco for $429 and everything works great.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by rvanlaar »

unionpivo wrote: post #60
Happpy wrote: post #27

I'd love to replace my thinkpad. But I need/want things that seem unavailable. * trackpoint + buttons (can be without touchpad, disabled anyway) * full keyboard * strong durable * removable battery * 4k screen * ecc 64-128gb * rj45 * lots of ports * hardware switches to disable: networking, camera, mic,.. Thinkpad's are move farther away each year. I hope some company will fill the gap.

I was/am thinkpad user also. I have migrated to desktops. They are cheap enough to have one at the office and one at home. Sure the above wont work for everybody, but if you are like me, you unpacked the laptop at home and at work each day at exactly the same space, where all the cables and extra monitors were. I used to use laptop in coffee shops and outdoors, but nowadays between phone, and tablets (wel phone and k…

My main reason to go for a laptop was that I wanted to continue coding where I left off and not have to worry about differing settings and system configuration.

Did you solve those problems? and if so how?

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by kop316 »

smoldesu wrote: post #75
kop316 wrote: post #64

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This may interest you: https://www.xyte.ch/ I have a thinkpad x2100 and it is a great laptop.

Thanks for sharing this, it looks outright incredible. I love my x201, but it's starting to feel a little long in the tooth these days... I may end up getting one of these. What's the battery life like?

I can typically get 4-6 hours with an OEM x201 battery? I really don't try to max out the battery though. It really depends on your usecase as well, as I don't do anything too harsh with it.

I have an x200 as well, so if I was really worried I could just carry a spare battery.

Re: Pangolin – Mobile AMD laptop with Ryzen CPU and Radeon graphics

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Post by mrweasel »

wheels wrote: post #69
simias wrote: post #31

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given the size of the unit it makes sense to have a numpad, no? What would you put instead?

I don't like having my hands off-center. I assume I'm not alone there. Among other things, it causes amplified wrist pain.

You're not alone. Why anyone would prefer an off center keyboard only to gain a numpad I'll never know.

Being left handed makes the numpad even dumber. It's placed on the wrong side of the keyboard.

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