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My life in Accenture before startups

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Re: My life in Accenture before startups

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post #19

Interesting post. What was that bit about the three heads?

He's suggesting that the only qualification Accenture required of prospective new employees was having the correct number of heads.

Actually, places like Accenture do tend to hire better looking people. Especially women. That goes into the whole "chicks making charts strategy" people joke about.

Re: My life in Accenture before startups

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post #80

My two favorite quotes about Accenture are: "Accenture is a great place to be from" "At Accenture the great employees leave, the weak are fired, and the mediocre become partners"

The first one seems spot on, but I know a number of people who have staid at Accenture, and some who were or are partners, and they are far from mediocre... Anecdotal evidence again, I guess...

Re: My life in Accenture before startups

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post #80

My two favorite quotes about Accenture are: "Accenture is a great place to be from" "At Accenture the great employees leave, the weak are fired, and the mediocre become partners"

Have to disagree with the second comment. My experience was that the partners were exceptionally good at their job, which is essentially sales. Perhaps they are mediocre along other measurements? Every single one of them was a workaholic, which I don't find to be an admirable quality, so there's that.

Off topic from this comment thread, but the best part about working for Accenture is the extremely transparent career ladder and laddering process, (at least in the consulting workforce). It's something you only appreciate once you don't have it. I was able to look out 10 years and see that I would gradually be transformed into a workaholic sales guy that makes huge amounts of money. As soon as I figured that out I was out of there.

Re: My life in Accenture before startups

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post #27

My typical day working for a Big 5 firm: 7:00 - drive to client in Redlands 8:00 - arrive in Redlands 8:42 - client arrives for 8:00 meeting 8:51 - client leaves for emergency 8:52 - review project with programmer - still 18 months behind 9:15 - daily email to 6 bosses about dire status 9:38 - take call from boss #4 - debate "strategic direction" 10:20 - coffee, snack, & bitch session with lead programmer 10:45 - dri…

Nice. The first one sounds like Officespace, "I'd say in a given day I do about 15 minutes of actual work".

Re: My life in Accenture before startups

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post #60

Interesting discussion here. A few things spring to mind: - Consulting training still has an element of programming, but I suspect that will go when Core Analyst School moves to Bangalore later this year. The value is not that those guys will ever code, but to give them a feel for the types of problems that the engineers face. - Solutions delivery (offshore or on) has pretty much taken development work off the plate…

It sounds like you work for Accenture, out of interest, have you ever worked at a startup? [Edit: I'm not asking to be snarky, just curious as I know a few people who have worked for big consulting firms and who now work for early stage companies and who relish the difference in environment. I was curious to see if anyone has gone in the other direction.]

I worked at Accenture for 10 years and am on my second yC-funded company after leaving there. While I would never go back to that environment, I praise it for what it is to this day. I strongly believe more than ever you just need to understand yourself and "how you're built" and choose the environment that is most appropriate for you. And that may change over time like it did for me. But some people don't like the risks inherent in startups, or they need more structure to their day and know they don't do good with minimal direction and if that's the case, a place like Accenture is a pretty good place to work.

I wouldn't give back the skills I learned at Accenture and they've been invaluable for working on Inkling, our first B2B business. From day 1 I knew how to deal with large corporate cultures, understood the procurement process, how to manage projects, create a budget, write proposals, deal with various personalities, run a meeting and conduct workshops, conference call etiquette. It may sound simplistic, but I can't tell you the number of deals I've seen blown up simply because people don't really understand the business of business. Those skills are a lot harder to pick up in a startup.

Re: My life in Accenture before startups

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post #27

My typical day working for a Big 5 firm: 7:00 - drive to client in Redlands 8:00 - arrive in Redlands 8:42 - client arrives for 8:00 meeting 8:51 - client leaves for emergency 8:52 - review project with programmer - still 18 months behind 9:15 - daily email to 6 bosses about dire status 9:38 - take call from boss #4 - debate "strategic direction" 10:20 - coffee, snack, & bitch session with lead programmer 10:45 - dri…

Silly question, why do you eat at your desk? And do you actually type in any code, or do you just look at your code and think about stuff in your mind? It seems like you take breaks outside, but for me there's nothing like taking 30 mins to have lunch _at_ a table to clear your mind.

I find one of the most important functions of Lunch is to take a break and clear my head. My hands tend to be occupied, so if I'm home I'll watch an episode of something on Hulu or read HN. If I'm out with someone we'll just chat.

It's really quite refreshing and I love the feeling of having solved something over lunch that was frustrating me all morning, without having to think about it directly.

Re: My life in Accenture before startups

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post #56
post #27

My typical day working for a Big 5 firm: 7:00 - drive to client in Redlands 8:00 - arrive in Redlands 8:42 - client arrives for 8:00 meeting 8:51 - client leaves for emergency 8:52 - review project with programmer - still 18 months behind 9:15 - daily email to 6 bosses about dire status 9:38 - take call from boss #4 - debate "strategic direction" 10:20 - coffee, snack, & bitch session with lead programmer 10:45 - dri…

7:50 - arrive at work, turn on Windows workstation 7:51 - get coffee, greet co-workers 8:10 - workstation finally up, check overnight logs You know you can just leave your windows computer on all night too, it will eventually enter sleep mode anyway (takes a few seconds the next day to "wake up") :)

This is an enterprise. So they probably use a AV product like McCrappy that takes 3 hours to scan for stuff.

Re: My life in Accenture before startups

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post #60

Interesting discussion here. A few things spring to mind: - Consulting training still has an element of programming, but I suspect that will go when Core Analyst School moves to Bangalore later this year. The value is not that those guys will ever code, but to give them a feel for the types of problems that the engineers face. - Solutions delivery (offshore or on) has pretty much taken development work off the plate…

It sounds like you work for Accenture, out of interest, have you ever worked at a startup? [Edit: I'm not asking to be snarky, just curious as I know a few people who have worked for big consulting firms and who now work for early stage companies and who relish the difference in environment. I was curious to see if anyone has gone in the other direction.]

Nope.

I've done what I'd call an "internal startup", which was successful, but with which I no longer have a great deal of involvement. I used a few hundred k of seed funding and a team of 4 to build a web app over about 4 months. It's in use at about 20 customers internationally, and is now delivered as a service model, sold internally through cross charging. i.e. we deal with internal partners and they do their own deal with the customer. I like to think it gave me a feel for some of the issues faced when doing a startup, but without many of the risks.

Re: My life in Accenture before startups

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As a current Analyst (1 year out of college now) at Accenture, I have a few points to add: Positives: - Accenture greatly helps develop one's people skills and networking skills which can help prepare you for a startup. Building these skills in college is difficult, so jumping into a professional setting right after college helps. - The work enables you to understand real-world problems that clients are facing, so yo…

Is it just me, or do all of the ex- or current Accenture people posting here sound like Amway salesmen or cult members.
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