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Can You Identify This Mysterious Old Writing?

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Re: Can You Identify This Mysterious Old Writing?

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Left-handed for those that need clarification. :)

I am related to a left-hander who hates being a synonym for evildoing, so now it sticks out to me when people use it that way :p

Instead of 'sinister', you could try 'gauche' or 'awkward' as terms for left-handed.

Re: Can You Identify This Mysterious Old Writing?

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This looks like the same text on the Voynich Manuscript [0] — only without the illustrations. [0]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript

Voynich, whatever it is, is internally consistent in its glyphs. There's only a small overlap between the glyphs (at least what I can make out as distinct glyphs... always tricky when you don't know what you're looking at) in this sample compared to Voynich. Probably just coincidental, like how they all have a glyph that looks like Latin lowercase 'b'.

Re: Can You Identify This Mysterious Old Writing?

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Nice, Tai Le looks really close! I first thought it might be Deseret Cursive [1], but I don't think that's it either. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deseret_alphabet

Whoa I grew up Mormon and have never once heard of this script. Super interesting. There is so much Church history that they don’t teach because it’s weird in contemporary light, and this is a great example of that.

There is a ton of info about the church that isn't widely known in Mormon circles. The CES letter does a good job covering tons of it https://www.cesletter.org

Re: Can You Identify This Mysterious Old Writing?

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Whoa I grew up Mormon and have never once heard of this script. Super interesting. There is so much Church history that they don’t teach because it’s weird in contemporary light, and this is a great example of that.

There is a ton of info about the church that isn't widely known in Mormon circles. The CES letter does a good job covering tons of it https://www.cesletter.org

yeah for sure, it's definitely by design. My family is quite deeply intertwined with the church, going back several generations, so it's always very interesting to see weird ways the Church tried to embed themselves. The state of Deseret and the Mormon uprisings are some of my favorite trivia to lay on people who aren't familiar with the Church and how wild it's history actually is.

Re: Can You Identify This Mysterious Old Writing?

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(11:38 GMT) I'm filing a guess of a tourist copy of the stories of Amir Hamzah, in early 20th century handwritten Javanese. I believe the image needs to be rotated/flipped so the hole in the paper is in the top left quadrant. Will post a reference when I settle on one.

Indeed, it looks similar: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Stories_of_Amir_Hamz...

At a minimum, the word at the right end of the 5th line of this document is also seen 8 lines directly below the black hole in the subject document, which is indeed photographed from the wrong side of the paper.

Re: Can You Identify This Mysterious Old Writing?

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I am related to a left-hander who hates being a synonym for evildoing, so now it sticks out to me when people use it that way :p

...when do people use it that way? "Sinister" in English has just the one meaning; the sense of "left" is restricted to Latin. And even there, "left" is a pretty different concept from "left-handed". On a different note, French for left is "gauche".

Nobody uses it that way — they use it to mean evil/wicked/malevolent, but then said relation will usually gibe "why yes they are very left-handed" so I have stopped using it that way lol

Re: Can You Identify This Mysterious Old Writing?

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...when do people use it that way? "Sinister" in English has just the one meaning; the sense of "left" is restricted to Latin. And even there, "left" is a pretty different concept from "left-handed". On a different note, French for left is "gauche".

A few different English dictionaries include "on the left" as a current definition for sinister. From American Heritage Dictionary 4th Ed. (En-En) > sinister > sin·is·ter (sĭnʹĭ-stər) > adj. > 4. On the left side; left. > From Merriam-Webster's Collegiate 11 (En-En) > sinister > a. : of, relating to, or situated to the left or on the left side of something; especially : being or relating to the side of a heraldic shi…

> of, relating to, or situated to the left or on the left side of something; especially : being or relating to the side of a heraldic shield at the left of the person bearing it

The bar sinister? Calling that a sense of the English word would commit you to saying that "vert" is English for "green", "gules" is English for "red", "or" is English for "gold", etc.

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