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MacBook Pro M1X benchmarks have leaked

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Re: MacBook Pro M1X benchmarks have leaked

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Well, I got mine in 2 days, so...

Ordered mine end of December, got it last Thursday. Glad you had a better experience!

Ordered mine at the end of November and received it the week of Christmas. M1 Air with 16gb RAM and 1TB drive.

Re: MacBook Pro M1X benchmarks have leaked

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i love my mac, can't wait for this upgrade

people like to hate on the OS, but i find it super beautiful and easy to use

i don't know how to describe it, but i feel good when i use my mac

in contrast, everytime i have to boot windows, i feel like i'm oppressed by some corporate, i feel closed, the whole experience is boring, windows needs a serious REBOOT, not a reskin, a whole reboot, including deleting NTFS

Re: MacBook Pro M1X benchmarks have leaked

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Release Date? Apple can take a few different paths to this “M1X” release. They can A. Release in Spring. Use the current cpu & node generation tech, and add cores. B. Release in Fall. Use the now old (2020) cpu & old node, and add cores. C. Release in Fall. Use the now new (2021) cpu, new node generation - and add cores. Will be curious to see which path they take. I’d bet Option B. This would be similar to what’s cu…

I'd guess option A. They aren't doing radical redesigns, so ramping up is easy and fast. They've pulled an Osborne Effect on their Intel devices by announcing they are transitioning in just a couple years. Nobody wants to buy a brand-new second-class product. Finally, launching their new laptops this fall means they are half-way through their transition time, but just getting started with their most powerful segment.

There are still a lot of people who need Intel, primarily people doing cloud development and in particular those who aren’t using an interpreted language.

I don’t how big this group is as a percentage of Apple customers, but in an absolute sense it’s significant — several $B worth anyway.

Also there are people who won’t buy M1 because they are (probably correctly, though I haven’t had any problems) hearing that not everything works right yet. If my mother needed to replace her MacBook Air today I’d get her an Intel one. I expect her next machine with be Mx though.

I suspect Apple will continue selling Intel-based machines into 2022, and perhaps longer. I doubt they will update them though.

Re: MacBook Pro M1X benchmarks have leaked

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Release Date? Apple can take a few different paths to this “M1X” release. They can A. Release in Spring. Use the current cpu & node generation tech, and add cores. B. Release in Fall. Use the now old (2020) cpu & old node, and add cores. C. Release in Fall. Use the now new (2021) cpu, new node generation - and add cores. Will be curious to see which path they take. I’d bet Option B. This would be similar to what’s cu…

Probably in June with WWDC, if they follow historic trends.

Pretty small n for most such trends.

Re: MacBook Pro M1X benchmarks have leaked

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There is no Macbook with AMD processor, I think that's why it is compared to Intel, that plus Intel being the historic leader

There is no Macbook with AMD processor because Apple didn't want to make it. Intel is not the leader for 5+ years now.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. In the notebook space they've been the industry leader for less than 12 months.

Re: MacBook Pro M1X benchmarks have leaked

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Considering that Apple ditched Intel for their own Apple Silicon chips it makes more sense comparing them (for now).

Why? The MacBooks aren't competing against their previous iterations (since you can't buy them anymore), but against their non-Apple competition. When you'll be buying a new laptop, you won't be choosing between a 2018 MacBook and a 2021 MacBook, but between 2021 MacBook and offerings from Lenovo, Dell, Microsoft and others.

You sure can still buy the old ones.

I suspect you will be able to for another year or so. See comment from me elsewhere on this thread for my reasoning.

Re: MacBook Pro M1X benchmarks have leaked

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>They've got it acting like it's L2 cache instead of RAM....... These things already don't act as if it's RAM as we're used to considering it. Please stop this non-sense on HN. DRAM is DRAM. L2 Cache is L2 Cache. Doesn't matter how good its 8-Channel LPDDR4X Memory Architecture sitting next to the Die in the same package it is still just DRAM.

As someone that runs Kubernetes on my work laptop, all the "the memory architecture is different, so 8GB is enough" nonsense just doesn't hold up. I need a ton of memory FULL STOP. It sounds just like the nonsense Apple was spewing about MMS messaging on the original iPhone.

Apple is not selling MB Airs or 13" Pros for users who are running massive workloads like Kubernetes. It is the reason they left intel models in the current line up. The M1 models are for more pedestrian users and users with moderate video editing workloads.

It takes my M1 a little while longer to stitch together 4K videos than my 2017 MPB 16". My 2017 MBP screams and throttles down the CPU down to 60%-75% as soon as editing starts.

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I wonder if the shorter bus won't somehow reduce the error rates.

Errors can be at the cell level of the memory, given the very high density they are now.

I know. I just wanted a reality check on where erros originate from.

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A lot of things will probably beat it at performance, but not at lot of them will beat at GTX 1060 as well as Core i5 performance using only 26.5W of power while doing it. The performance of the M1 is remarkable, but the real killer feature is they managed to push that much performance while reducing power consumption.

Is it able to use 26.5W while using both GPU and CPU without degrading performance? The answer is no. 26.5W is only for the CPU. If you also need to use GPU then it throttles or consumes more.

It’s an SOC. Unless you consider the CPU basically just the ALU and register file (a quite reasonable but long outdated position) it’s all the same power budget for the M series.

Re: MacBook Pro M1X benchmarks have leaked

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I was surprised how well the 5800X holds up to the new M1 and M1X. Given the boost I felt with my MBA M1, I thought my NUC8i7HVK felt sluggish in comparison and was considering a new PC build - or moving off a "Linux Desktop" to M1X if it was dramatically better than incumbent desktop processors. Seems like I can keep Linux and build a 5800X, and have > 32GB RAM to boot. For those happy with MacOS as a daily drive, t…

I replaced my dev machine (a fully maxed out 6 core i9 2018 MBP with 32 gigs of memory) with a Mac mini with two upgrades (16G memory, 1TB drive) and I simply can't tell the difference in performance. But I can tell the difference in heat and stability.

And the Mac mini was about 1/3 the price. (I know it's not an equal comparison, but I was always using my laptop with the lid closed, hooked up to 2 4k monitors anyway.)

I will happily upgrade to more power. I don't miss not being able to run virtual Windows because I offloaded that to my home server anyway and RDP into it when needed.

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