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Windows Refund Day (1999)

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Re: Windows Refund Day (1999)

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> The windows EULA (End User License Agreement) clearly states that the agreement can be refused by the end user, and that windows can be returned to the manufacturer. In real life, however, manufacturers typically say that they can't refund the windows license and tell the user to contact microsoft directly. I can't say I really blame manufacturers for doing that [...] I can. If companies want to profit by being a m…

They addressed it in Russia btw. Now it is the law that whoever accepts the payment carries the responsibility. So shit like > manufacturers typically say that they can't refund the windows license and tell the user to contact microsoft directly won't fly anymore.

Same in Europe, you have to make sure the product conforms to the description so if it is broken you have to react or take it back.

I don’t think this has ever been tested with respect to licenses though.

Re: Windows Refund Day (1999)

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Windows is insurance. I love Linux and exclusively (at home) use it daily. I love the idea of open source and the unmatched flexibility that comes with it - I can customize my desktop to match my workflow to the nth degree. However, sometimes (very rarely now a days), stuff breaks and when I absolutely cannot afford to spend 30 mins troubleshooting, I reboot into Windows and basically get the job done. I do get back…

You must have the golden Windows installation that never breaks itself! Be careful with it!

Re: Windows Refund Day (1999)

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Windows is insurance. I love Linux and exclusively (at home) use it daily. I love the idea of open source and the unmatched flexibility that comes with it - I can customize my desktop to match my workflow to the nth degree. However, sometimes (very rarely now a days), stuff breaks and when I absolutely cannot afford to spend 30 mins troubleshooting, I reboot into Windows and basically get the job done. I do get back…

Why Windows? Ubuntu is my insurance. Windows takes way longer to install and supports far less hardware.

Re: Windows Refund Day (1999)

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I’m going to get downvoted into oblivion for this, but as a teenager who remembers when this happened, this always struck me as the absolute dumbest idea and the most useless of performative actions. First, it was sponsored by a VC-backed company (that had hired a documentary crew to capture their success, the ill-fated VA Linux Systems (which eventually became known as Geeknet) and the pretty poor propaganda documen…

I had friends do the mail in but, I didn’t care as I used windows under OS/2.. I tried really hard to go full Linux before but compiling all the dependencies of everything got so old quick. Sadly nothing has changed there.

Re: Windows Refund Day (1999)

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In 2006-sih I tried to get Windows removed from my Sony Vaio. They could do it, if I sent the laptop back to the webshop, paying for it myself. There was no money to be returned to me.

I think the situation is complex, perhaps Sony paid MS for Windows (XP mediacenter), but they made money on the Norton Trial software, the trailer for movies on my desktop, and ah lot of other cruft that was not really in my interest.

Re: Windows Refund Day (1999)

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Those pictures make me nostalgic for the 1998-2008 era. Back when 99% of people didn't have a camera in their pocket. Having a camera/camcorder at a convention or event like this was so much different.

Not only that - Linux fanatics looking geeky, long hair, penguins. Now they look normal, where AWS t-shirts and get enough TC to retire at 30 having helped Bezos get more power.

Re: Windows Refund Day (1999)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is pretty amazing how Microsoft has gotten away with this, which probably had few comparables in the business world when OEMS first started pre-installing Windows on personal computers. Gates' entire fortune rests on the success of it. I have always thought there is this underlying assumption that generally no person would ever purchase a computer that had no OS pre-installed. (Obviously that is not true, there ar…

It is nigh impossible to purchase computers and connect to the internet without the presence of middlemen and pre-made selections. Who are you buying from? I get computers from Central Computer, which has five stores in Silicon Valley. They charge $30 extra to install Windows 10, $64 for Windows 10 Pro, and $0 for Linux.

This would be logical, but due to some business practices, Windows bundles often costed less than the alternatives.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundling_of_Microsoft_Windows#...

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