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Man, that is really grim. Basically admitting that $500 will be make or break for many of these employees, while the company itself is hitting record numbers.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Q: Will NOT having a union provide better wages and benefits? A: Yes, it could. Unions introduce parasitic loss and collective bargaining. Collective bargaining allows a large part of the workforce to negotiate as one unit and consequently higher performing workers are unable to negotiate a salary commensurate with their performance. In order to retain higher performing workers, corporations end up paying average per…
...except for Amazon warehouses where to my knowledge almost everyone with the same role gets basically the same pay (without any unions). Minimum wage (or even amazons $15 minimum wage) jobs are very difficult to negotiate from a performance perspective given the nature of the job.
> without any unions
Good, they don’t need one then? They do the same job at the same performance but they somehow want more money. Good, so does everyone else.
> Minimum wage (or even amazons $15 minimum wage) jobs are very difficult to negotiate from a performance perspective given the nature of the job.
Yeah, it sounds like the government already mandated that they get paid more than their labor is worth so I’m sure a union would just introduce more parasitic loss without adding anything.
That very first * is the first major point for unions. Many unions protect part time workers, or protect workers from being excluded from a fair share of benefits based on their inputs. The reason for this is that there’s no incentive to push hours down until no one gets benefits. Which is not uncommon, unfortunately. Many companies tout incredible benefits with a significant portion of their workforce having no enti…
The part-time/full-time issue is very union dependent. I was a member of the Teamster's union many moons ago and got zero benefits as a part-time worker.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Q: Will NOT having a union provide better wages and benefits? A: Yes, it could. Unions introduce parasitic loss and collective bargaining. Collective bargaining allows a large part of the workforce to negotiate as one unit and consequently higher performing workers are unable to negotiate a salary commensurate with their performance. In order to retain higher performing workers, corporations end up paying average per…
False assumption: "Higher performing workers" are good at bargaining.
I didn’t assume anything of the sort. Consider bargaining skills to be normally distributed in society.
That very first * is the first major point for unions. Many unions protect part time workers, or protect workers from being excluded from a fair share of benefits based on their inputs. The reason for this is that there’s no incentive to push hours down until no one gets benefits. Which is not uncommon, unfortunately. Many companies tout incredible benefits with a significant portion of their workforce having no enti…
Are you in the U.S.? You say you don't get paid leave as a software developer, are you a contractor?
I like how the main objection would be instantly nullified if Amazon paid their workers more. Do you think a union would be able to negotiate for more than $500 of extra compensation?
> Don’t buy that dinner, don’t buy those school supplies, don’t buy those gifts because you won’t have that almost $500 you paid in dues. WHY NOT save the money and get the books, gifts & things you want? DO IT without dues! Man, that is really grim. Basically admitting that $500 will be make or break for many of these employees, while the company itself is hitting record numbers.
I edited to remove my mistake, the downstream convo is gonna be wacky
> IF YOU’RE PAYING DUES… it will be RESTRICTIVE meaning it won’t be easy to be as helpful and social with each other. So be a DOER, stay friendly and get things done versus paying dues What is this line even supposed to mean? Probably the most incomprehensible union busting talking point I've ever heard.
> Don’t buy that dinner, don’t buy those school supplies, don’t buy those gifts because you won’t have that almost $500 you paid in dues. WHY NOT save the money and get the books, gifts & things you want? DO IT without dues! Man, that is really grim. Basically admitting that $500 will be make or break for many of these employees, while the company itself is hitting record numbers.
https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/26/technology/amazon-q2-earnin... I edited to remove my mistake, the downstream convo is gonna be wacky