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Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

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These clowns shorted 170% of float. If that's not pure gambling teetering on market manipulation, I don't know what is.

Bruh, lets be honest its GameStop. That company IS going the way of blockbuster. "pure gambling" is a stretch everyone can read the tea leaves here. Honestly pre-covid when was the last time you went into a GameStop and saw more than two other people.

But it doesn't have to go the way of blockbuster, it appointed 3 new directors to its board with e-commerce and tech experience. It seems to be looking to transition to an e-commerce platform.

Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

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> "This isn't investing, this is gambling" Yep. Agreed. Spot-on. That's what Wall St does. If you don't like it, try and stop it. But for everyone, including the hedge funds. Treating the derivatives markets like a casino (and taxing appropriately) sounds like a great idea.

Seems like throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Many derivatives are just insurance.

Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

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Not being in the US I don't know this but can Robinhood be sued, like a lot of people seem to be calling for, just for refusing to handle trades on a stock?

Which can be viewed as market manipulation. I'm not in US either but it looks pretty dodgy on their part. A key message of all these new trading platforms is that your capital is at risk. Their users know this, so why are they restricting trades?

They are restricting trades because this looks like a possible crime, and they do not want to be known as crime-friendly brokerages. "Your capital is at risk" is not the same as "it's a free for all."

Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

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> "This isn't investing, this is gambling" Yep. Agreed. Spot-on. That's what Wall St does. If you don't like it, try and stop it. But for everyone, including the hedge funds. Treating the derivatives markets like a casino (and taxing appropriately) sounds like a great idea.

Derivatives involves a lot of betting. It also involves legitimate hedging. A farmer can lock in their revenue, and a manufacturing company can lock in exchange rates.

Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

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While the title might be true for the "amateur investors" that got in early, I strongly believe that most of them are not outwitting anyone and will be bagholders. As of this post basically everyone who bought yesterday are underwater by 50%.

How are you going to become a bag holder of a stock shorted over 100%? Hedge funds will have to buy you out.

Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

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Does it matter that your're underwater by 50%? The goal was to beat Wallstreet, They did. The hedgefunds should definitely take note not to play a dangerous game because losing is always on the table.

> The hedgefunds should definitely take note not to play a dangerous game because losing is always on the table. Taken at face value, this advice boils down to never doing anything that involves a large risk. No civil rights movement, no D-Day invasions, etc. There's certainly a reminder here about tail risk, and the ability of the market to stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. However, the takeaway isn'…

That's quite the hyperbole you've got going. I was just suggesting that ONE bad round of investments going bad shouldn't make a hedgefund apply for bankruptcy. and my take isn't to "only take big risks if failure is impossible" (Which is a paradox, you risk failure or failure is impossible)

"then maybe this just validates their strategy."

Well, no, the GME stock rally made them insolvent for such a long time that only the SEC intervening might save them. (Again, not suggesting that's the SEC's motivation)

30 day non-volatile shortstocks should require significantly higher margins than they already do because debt increases nonlinear when the market goes up. but no, higher margins would mean you can invest less so the SEC better protect everyone on wall street from market gambling. The SEC operates on a complete grey area and many people who have 'beaten' wall street ended up being caught and nerfed by the SEC.

'our mission is to protect investors and maintain fair, orderly, and efficient markets'

The SEC is not your friend. It does not help YOU when the market is unfair, volatile, inefficient. only when big waves form they feel the need to help big players. The SEC is just going to blame amateurs, help the hedgefunds and make no attempt to help the day-traders who many people argue ITT got caught up in the GME stocks.

Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

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We will be reading "I lost all my savings" posts in a few days on reddit. It is for sure GME will hit 30, and those bought it at high will be sharing their real life pain instead of memes.

> It is for sure GME will hit 30 May I suggest you look into purchasing long-dated GME puts then? The price for the $320 GME PUT expiring in 1 year is $240.

Well, I wish I did what you told me heh.
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