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Amanda Gorman's “The Hill We Climb” (Full Text)

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Re: Amanda Gorman's “The Hill We Climb” (Full Text)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar, and don't post personal attacks. These rules apply regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Yeah. You're right. I should have taken the time to make my point in a calmer and more neutral way.

I kinda knew that when I posted it but laziness and irritation got the better of me.

Re: Amanda Gorman's “The Hill We Climb” (Full Text)

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What I find fascinating is how people so often have this impulse to tear down things that others hold in high regard. Impulse might even be an understatement - it's almost a need. I wonder why that is. Ex: - "vim sucks! why don't people use emacs instead?" - "katy perry's music sucks!" Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Many liked it. Many did not - yourself included. That's okay. Art does not evoke the same…

It's fine for people to disagree, sure, and I certainly don't expect to convince everyone. You're also absolutely right that disagreements can engage the emotions in the way you describe. But consider your example, software. People have strong emotions about, say, Windows vs. Mac vs. Linux as a platform. This isn't just about the feels. Real issues are at stake. The Unix-hater's handbook points out how "root" was a t…

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Re: Amanda Gorman's “The Hill We Climb” (Full Text)

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If someone made a poster with this poem, or excerpts from the poem, on it - I would buy one. Probably some copyright issues though.

You can likely tweet or email her directly to request a merchandise store. She may already be close to opening one and can share the good news with you!

She already has a store: https://www.theamandagorman.com/

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Look, no offence, but this is a terrible poem. It's verbose: > We, the successors of a country and a time where a skinny Black girl descended from slaves and raised by a single mother can dream of becoming president, only to find herself reciting for one. It doesn't make sense. (You can't be the successor of a country, you even more can't be the successor of the present instant happening right now.) It's content-free…

I'm glad people enjoyed it. I couldn't get past the sophomoric avalanche of cheap alliterations.

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Look, no offence, but this is a terrible poem. It's verbose: > We, the successors of a country and a time where a skinny Black girl descended from slaves and raised by a single mother can dream of becoming president, only to find herself reciting for one. It doesn't make sense. (You can't be the successor of a country, you even more can't be the successor of the present instant happening right now.) It's content-free…

And yet, without any analysis, anyone I've talked to was moved by the poem, and thought it was the best part of the inauguration. I think the moment, the black young girl standing at the pulpit of power, the collective relief, the joy of seeing a female (black/asian) as VP, culminated in an emotional uplifting, which the words did not capture at 100%. It had meaning in the context of 4 years of trump, of 400 years of…

I can believe that too :-)

Re: Amanda Gorman's “The Hill We Climb” (Full Text)

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I have written a commentary on this poem, that critiques it several lines at a time. I wrote this before knowing about this web site or this thread, so I may repeat some of the criticism provided here. The critique is 9 pages long, although this exaggerates its true length. There is plenty of white space in the document. Because it is so long, I assume it would be inappropriate for me to dump it into a thread entry, so I am providing a link to a PDF file on my Google Drive account. I hope this does not contravene any rules of the web site (I looked, but could not find any guidance on this). I would welcome any feedback you have to give. The link is: https://drive.google.com/file/d/18vVqYMs3dj6jMhAn1r7zmElly1B....

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Look, no offence, but this is a terrible poem. It's verbose: > We, the successors of a country and a time where a skinny Black girl descended from slaves and raised by a single mother can dream of becoming president, only to find herself reciting for one. It doesn't make sense. (You can't be the successor of a country, you even more can't be the successor of the present instant happening right now.) It's content-free…

What I find fascinating is how people so often have this impulse to tear down things that others hold in high regard. Impulse might even be an understatement - it's almost a need. I wonder why that is. Ex: - "vim sucks! why don't people use emacs instead?" - "katy perry's music sucks!" Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Many liked it. Many did not - yourself included. That's okay. Art does not evoke the same…

There is a contradiction in what you’re saying here. Everyone is entitled to their opinion unless it is a critical opinion.

The comment gives sound reasons for not liking the poem, it does not resort to the kind of cheap shots you describe. (Which by the way don’t really qualify as criticism)

Without critical perspective there would be no such thing as great art. We need more critical thinking, not less.

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