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How to leave Google and why

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Re: How to leave Google and why

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Ironically, leaving google is easier on Android because you can download and use apps without the App Store. For example, how is using YouTube via the iOS app any different _at all_? If you had android you could use the app newpipe.

IMO: continuing to use youtube in any way isn't really leaving google.

Re: How to leave Google and why

#82
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Can you elaborate on how you made that conclusion?

At least on a standpoint of what ‘partners’ or ‘developers’ can access, Google hasn’t had a Cambridge Analytica scenario play out (that we know of) so all of the data they have gained via web tracking for the purpose of ads is securely stored in a Google silo.

I agree, but would like to remind you of the Google+ data scandal in 2018, which did not increase my confidence in Google's security measures.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Google_data_breach

Re: How to leave Google and why

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> probably because they managed their public relations better It's not only PR. Google haven't violated their users' privacy to the extent Facebook have, it's not even close.

Facebook isn't reading my email ...

Right, they don't. They just read your chats, your contact lists, get other peoples contact information without any consent or relation to Facebook at all and some other minor things like using your photos for ads of any kind or selling data to e.g. profiling companies.

Re: How to leave Google and why

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There are a lot of great services coming out of both Facebook and Google. Why on Earth is the seemingly most popular solution to "cancel" them? That is such a waste.

I firmly believe the best remedies are regulation (to protect privacy) and breaking up monopolies.

Re: How to leave Google and why

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post #73

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Facebook isn't reading my email ...

Right, they don't. They just read your chats, your contact lists, get other peoples contact information without any consent or relation to Facebook at all and some other minor things like using your photos for ads of any kind or selling data to e.g. profiling companies.

I can avoid facebook completely, I can't avoid google.

Re: How to leave Google and why

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post #85

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Right, they don't. They just read your chats, your contact lists, get other peoples contact information without any consent or relation to Facebook at all and some other minor things like using your photos for ads of any kind or selling data to e.g. profiling companies.

I can avoid facebook completely, I can't avoid google.

Care to elaborate?

My previous post had an argument about how you can't avoid Facebook, as someone who uses Facebook probably already shared your contact information from their phone with them without you knowing anything about it.

Re: How to leave Google and why

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I would like to do this, but some services will need to hang around longer than others as I have not yet found replacements I fully like for them. For example, I am happy to be rid of Gmail and Photos, but still need to use the online editor features of Docs for the time being. And some I just really like and want to keep using, like Google Music. I wonder if there is any point deleting any of the services if I don't get rid of _all_ of them right away? Will just keeping Docs and Music and removing everything else make any meaningful impact on what data Google tracks and stores about me?

Re: How to leave Google and why

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post #35

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I'm using my own instance of mail-in-a-box, of course this is not going to be everyone's cup of tea, because you basically become your own admin. But personally I enjoy doing that, and the maintenance required is really minimal. If you are looking for cloud/managed alternatives you can have a look at the list here https://degoogle.jmoore.dev/

i am interested in mailinabox. i think next month i am going to take the plunge but i need a webmail. my question, how much of a vps server do you need to set one up? 1Gb ram for miab+roundcube? any better foss webmail like roundcube or squirrelmail? also, have you looked into oracle always free ? would that work?

Take a look at Mailcow too. I've been using it for more than a year now (was using Redmail before). It works pretty well, incuding the Spam filters.

Re: How to leave Google and why

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It might work for some of those: Maps - They massively hiked API prices a couple years ago, literally by orders of magnitude (a kind of breaking change?). They've also broken a bunch of user-facing features and made it slower; it seems a common complaint here that maps now is a worse product than it was 5 years ago. Search - They seem to have gone all-in on AI, and I've seen a lot of people complaining here that it's…

So what would the solution for Android phone be? Buy a new Android phone or buy an iPhone? They are very similar from the perspective of your data being owned by the phone OS maker.

Try an open-source linux phone?
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