This is an obviously politically motivated use of state violence, and I hope this case goes in her favor.
How can you pass judgement without knowing all the facts? Clearly there's still more to this story...
Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
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Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Having cops invade her home and hold her children at gunpoint didn’t scare her into becoming his scapegoat, so it’s important to escalate the campaign of violence against her. You make it sound like the police broke into her home and deliberately pointed weapons at her children. That’s completely bullshit. The police had a warrant signed by a judge. They repeatedly asked her to open the door, she refused. This went…
Don't Americans have the right for their lawyer or a trusted witness to be present during search warrants? If they do, why would police ever expect to enter without delay?
Are there other countries where it works that way? It's hard for me to see how a standard where you don't even have to come outside until your lawyer gets there would work; what would stop people from using the waiting time to destroy all the evidence the police came for?
Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Having cops invade her home and hold her children at gunpoint didn’t scare her into becoming his scapegoat, so it’s important to escalate the campaign of violence against her. You make it sound like the police broke into her home and deliberately pointed weapons at her children. That’s completely bullshit. The police had a warrant signed by a judge. They repeatedly asked her to open the door, she refused. This went…
The cops aren’t wild animals. They should have the ability to figure out whether or not a web developer/data scientist at home with warrants for nonviolent allegations is worth drawing a gun in a house with children in it. We need to hold cops to a higher standard of behavior.
Fun fact: when the police needed to find a judge to evaluate the strength of their warrant, the one they found was a family court judge brand new to the bench, whose signature in her warrant literally being the first one he signed in his career. They understand it makes it abundantly clear that they are engaged in a witch hunt, but communicating threats of state violence against whistleblowers is a much more important priority than the semblance of justice.
Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
>>where she completed course work with an emphasis on data science and was working on a doctoral dissertation titled Using Native American Sitescapes to Extend the North American Paleotempestological Record Through Coupled Remote Sensing and Climatological Analysis. >None of those qualify her to understand statistics better than the plethora of those employed by the state that are working diligently. Is your society…
Lots of highly educated people are on opposite side that lockdowns are very unneeded and government is overplaying/lying about the severity including the one who founded most valuable space company.
>including the one who founded most valuable space company.
I wonder why would he say that ;)
Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Statistics is one field in particular where it's easy for non-experts to reach completely false conclusions.
True with complex stuff, but we talk about covid-cases/day/region...that's really something everyone should interpret correctly.
COVID statistics can be very very difficult to interpret correctly, especially at the beginning when data was scarce.
For instance, most people agree it is best to exclude totally random testing sites from COVID numbers because even though the false positive rate is very low, at the beginning so was the incidence of COVID which means most of the positive tests would be false positive.
Including them or improperly dealing with that data would be considered base rate fallacy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_rate_fallacy
This is just one statistical phenomenon that has to be dealt with. It’s complicated and sometimes messy but it absolutely requires top minds
Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
#86What a weird story that keeps getting weirder. I am a data scientist who spent June in Tallahassee helping coordinate state-wide COVID testing with FDEM (Florida Department of Emergency Management) and state health officials. Everyone I worked with was pretty dedicated to getting the roll out right (including the governor and his appointees too..) My data & work was spread far and wide with no issue - but just a pers…
Agreed--as a Florida resident, I have heard a variety of highly-charged opinions on this story from many of my fellow residents, but very few hard facts to confirm or deny any particular narrative. I think the raid on Ms. Jones home was a grotesque and unwarranted use of police force, but I also think her "whistle-blowing" story is highly questionable based on the facts available.
I don't know what the raid on Ms. Jones house was about and am going to reserve judgment until I do. There's just so much weirdness. She calls herself a data scientist, which she may well consider herself to be, but the state appears to have hired her as a website developer, and fired her as a website developer, because she refused to put out data in her capacity as a web developer that the state's paid, official data scientists were giving her.
I guess you could consider her a whistleblower. But it's unclear the state did anything wrong other than a) insist that the numbers from its data scientists be published on a state website instead of Ms. Jones's and b) protect its emergency communication system by investigating abuses of same by what to me, at least, looks like a very likely suspect.
Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
#87This is an obviously politically motivated use of state violence, and I hope this case goes in her favor.
If you read the facts available, it appears that this isn’t the case at all, and it seems that we’re being sold a politically motivated narrative once again.
Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
#88While the State has handled this case wrong, she is not innocent in this. She made a bunch of drama about her interpretation of the data, which was, at best, no better than the State's method, and more likely, she was flat-out wrong. She is mostly a drama queen making a crazy mess.
Spoken like a true sexist.
Calling a woman a drama queen is not sexist. Just like calling a dumb man a meathead.
It would be sexists to say "all women are drama queens." Police some other type of derogatory remark elsewhere please. You're adding nothing to the conversation.
Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Having degrees in irrelevant fields is... irrelevant.
Ahh that's why mathematicians have no clue of Astrophysics and vice versa? And making your Doctor with emphasis on data science, has nothing todo with understanding simple data like covid-cases right? BTW Earth science has probably more todo with data than anything else.
It’s not that mathematicians have no clue of astrophysics, but that they aren’t working in that area and understanding the field enough to contravene decisions made by astrophysicists.
There’s a rationale around what is, and is not, included in case definitions and included in dashboards. It’s likely that these decisions are made by epidemiologists with not only specific training, but also access to much more data than the person who builds the dashboards.
Making a decision to include data in a visualization without understanding why is not a good idea because it’s common that people think they know what numbers mean, but only because they have limited visibility.
Having a degree in data science doesn’t mean that I’m a data scientist. If I’m hired in a web dev role, then I hope my input is received well and considered by epidemiologists in charge. And I hope they’d be able to spend time explaining the rationale behind their decisions.
This seems like a similar analogy where the build engineer decides to change the git repo because they know better than the dev team. Then someone reading the article says “well they have a PhD in computer science so they should know what they’re doing, it’s simple.”
Re: Arrest warrant issued for ex-Florida data scientist Rebekah Jones
#90This is an obviously politically motivated use of state violence, and I hope this case goes in her favor.
If you read the facts available, it appears that this isn’t the case at all, and it seems that we’re being sold a politically motivated narrative once again.
In this media climate? What an aberration!