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My Second Brain – Zettelkasten

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Re: My Second Brain – Zettelkasten

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+1 for Obsidian. It’s the best note taking app I’ve yet found, and I’ve tried almost all of them at this point.

Definitely the best - I only wish it could sync with my ipad!

You can do it by using 1Writer and storing the Obsidian vault on iCloud.

I think it works with Dropbox too but you’d have to use something other than 1writer but not sure what

Re: My Second Brain – Zettelkasten

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For anyone who wants the gist of Zettelkasten, I've just finished reading How to Take Smart Notes by Sönke Ahrens. Here's my rather brief summary of the process: * You create fleeting notes to capture ideas as they happen. They should be short lived notes that don't become the main store of your knowledge. * You create literature notes as your read material. These should include your own thoughts on highlighted passa…

> Each note should contain a single idea and should be understandable when reading in isolation.

This is the part that I can't get my head around. How do you make such short notes, particularly with enough context to make it understandable in isolation?

Re: My Second Brain – Zettelkasten

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+1 for Obsidian. It’s the best note taking app I’ve yet found, and I’ve tried almost all of them at this point.

Definitely the best - I only wish it could sync with my ipad!

1Writer has totally worked for me. It isn't a clone of Obsidian, but it is good enough for me to work on notes, do my daily journaling, and link things together. Also, the fact that you can have multiple windows stacked on iPad helps.

Re: My Second Brain – Zettelkasten

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Recently started using TiddlyWiki as personal notes archive. The automatic indexes of really work well to connect each note to others.

I agree, and there is at least three different implementations of zettelkasten in tiddlywiki:

Drift (https://akhater.github.io/drift/): I use this one as it has many nice features without becoming overwhelming

Stroll (https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html): like Drift, but more features, including two column view

TiddlyRoam (https://tiddlyroam.org/): Have a graph showing the relation between your notes

Re: My Second Brain – Zettelkasten

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There's the notorious productivity swamp that is caused by the obsession with optimizing productivity without thinking about the actual purpose behind it. This is multiplied by the ease and incentive of creating and publicizing productivity software and articles that are consumed by people in a perpetual state of insatisfaction. The result is a psychologically advanced form of procrastination and a futile attempt at…

> To-do lists are for things that aren't a real priority, otherwise you would be giving them your full attention and the tracking would be unnecessary. At most, it's helpful to track administrative minutiae. If you give something your full attention, tracking will seem like a non-sequitur.

There's only so many things you can handle yourself. Todo lists are essentially the archetype of your second brain. They not only let you remember the non-urgent (but likely important) tasks, they also help you manage multiple urgent-and-important tasks, and in particular large urgent-and-important tasks. When such task is too big to fit in your head, you break it down into pieces digestible by your brain. A todo list lets you tackle bigger tasks, that break into more pieces, and/or tackle more of such tasks.

> You can't hack meaningful relationships other than by growing as a person, nor can you hack the strength to work on things that matter every day.

Hold my beer while I cross off the task of buying tickets to an event my wife wants to go to, because as much as I want to remember it, it's one of those things that are both important for a meaningful relationship and too easy to slip out of one's head under barrage of everyday churn.

> In a sense, the ultimate hack is to come to terms with your mortality and use this as an impulsion to focus on what really matters to you.

I wish this worked, but the brain adjusts and compensates even for memento mori.

Re: My Second Brain – Zettelkasten

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For me it was about getting the notes in one place where I could manage them as I would in my text editor. I always got frustrated with the implementation of Markdown and no being able to manipulate the text as I would in a .md document. I have lost some functionality that Notion had, like for Kanban boards and such but being able to manipulate the plain text is where I want to be. The only downside I have really is…

Disclaimer: GitJournal Author. I've started using GitJournal a bit with my tablet, though it's a really old one. I would like to make GitJournal more tablet friendly in the future. If you happen to try to it, please feel free to to tell me about the issues. I'll be happy to fix them. PS: For markdown + kanban, imdone.io looks interesting. I haven't tried it out though.

GitJournal is great, discovered it months ago and its significantly improved the way I reference my notes. Thanks for the time you've put into it, greatly appreciated.

Re: My Second Brain – Zettelkasten

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Zettlekasten: the Kubernetes of note-taking systems. I think it’s important to bear in mind the context this system grew out of (academic research) and ask yourself whether you really need such a heavyweight note-taking system. It’s also important to realize this system is not a substitute for accepted patterns of knowledge generation, such as summarizing extemporaneous notes and making time to review your notes freq…

It's just sequences of notes and then inserting certain notes into other sequences. The "heavyweight" part of it disappears when you're using software which handles all this in the background. The remaining parts of it is the unexpected results for someone who hasn't used this sort of note taking system. The book "How to Take Smart Notes" explains this. You use the notes as a starting point to come up with new ideas.…

I'll add this book to my queue then. Because so far, the "heavyweight" part of Zettelkasten for me wasn't organizing notes into graphs, but fitting thoughts into index-card equivalents. I found myself cutting tightly couple prose into linked pieces, with the link forming a fixed and necessary spine, because the whole set of pieces only makes sense if taken together.

Re: My Second Brain – Zettelkasten

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I disagree about the mass market adoption - compared to how long Zettelkasten has been trending (less than a year), the rise in its tooling and usage is quite phenomenal.

Could you please help me understand the basis for your point of view? Precisely what evidence are you referring to? For example, the subreddit on it seems quite small... and many of the people I know could benefit from it have never heard of it before.

The first time I really heard of it was about a year ago, and there has been an explosion in tools and articles about it. No new innovation will reach mass market adoption in that time, but Zettelkasten is well on its way.

Re: My Second Brain – Zettelkasten

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There's the notorious productivity swamp that is caused by the obsession with optimizing productivity without thinking about the actual purpose behind it. This is multiplied by the ease and incentive of creating and publicizing productivity software and articles that are consumed by people in a perpetual state of insatisfaction. The result is a psychologically advanced form of procrastination and a futile attempt at…

> To-do lists are for things that aren't a real priority, otherwise you would be giving them your full attention and the tracking would be unnecessary. At most, it's helpful to track administrative minutiae. If you give something your full attention, tracking will seem like a non-sequitur. There's only so many things you can handle yourself. Todo lists are essentially the archetype of your second brain. They not only…

The finer details aren't that important: it's up to each individual to find the mix that works for them. The only general danger is mistaking fetishism of the tool with using the tool for some fully intentional purpose. Beyond that, there can also be the risk of misidentifying tasks as important when they aren't necessarily so in the grand scheme of what a person seeks out of life. These two black holes tend to be the consequence of trying to exert control over the world while ending up simulating it instead.

>I wish this worked, but the brain adjusts and compensates even for memento mori.

Wouldn't this be a self-fulfilling prophecy? Even if you aren't feeling the understanding of mortality in the moment, you can still draw from the memory and awareness of its existence and your relation to it. You still have choices available to you that can't simply be ignored by neurological hand-waving. And if it turns out we don't have such choices, then the entire thing never mattered to begin with.

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