I heard they are about to get banned from AWS. Rumor is that Amazon has also demanded full moderation. I know they are getting pressure from Amazon employees and AWS customers.
Link? That would be a major development.
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#82It's very surreal watching this happen. CloudFlare will be next, and they've already set the precedent that they will cease to serve websites that are "detrimental to society". Followed by Digital Ocean, Amazon, Verizon, Comcast, AT&T. For those of you who championed XKCD #1357 at every opportunity, congratulations! You've won. For a short time. The consequences of censorship will be dire. I'm no fan of Sagan, but he…
It's funny to me. Big words about censorship and dire consequences, but I see it as a sane correction of the current wild-west that is untenable.
Finally, some big players kick off bad-faith actors from their platforms. People that call for violence and hate.
There is no need for a platform in this world where you can use racial slurs, call for hate and violence.
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#83/pol/ pasta:
imagine spending the better part of the last 5 years having your brain and ego melted by uninterrupted /pol/ exposure, flying to washington in the middle of a pandemic to hear trump whine about oprah and mike pence at a rally, marching up to congress on his orders to smash shit and then mill around aimlessly
you go home and hear that biden won anyway and all of your favorite twitter news sources named like Patriot Newsman Of the West with avatars of roman statues have posted your photo online and are labeling you a "gay communist antifa actor." then the next day the god emperor you pasted into warhammer memes puts out a video cucking himself and bending the knee. "i'm sorry, those were heinous acts! p-please let me tweet again jack!!" you can't leave dc because the airlines have dubbed you a flight risk. you can't stay because the cops are actively looking for you after one of their own died. your roommate at the only hotel that would accept you is a guy named based_kekistani1488 who wants to show you his goblin slayer torrents. the sun is going down and you're getting cold.
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#84If parler defined their API in an open format, that anyone could implement, could a generic client app be allowed on the app store?
This is an excellent question!
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#85It must feel pretty surreal to be someone that is constantly moving to different communication apps and instantly finding them pulled by anyone and everyone. We've seen an escalation of this from higher-level platforms (obviously Twitter can ban an account if they desire) to medium-level platforms (I suppose Apple gets to pick what I can do on my own phone even if it feels a bit wrong), but I'm curious if this will a…
'Deplatforming' isn't effective as a strategy if the platform/medium/resource isn't exclusive or scarce in some way. Twitter/Facebook are virtual social-media monopolies. Android/App Store platforms are distribution monopolies for mobile Apps.
Hosting companies? ISPs? Book publishers? Not so much, although things aren't moving in the right direction on those fronts. Cloud platforms come to mind.
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#86We should understand that all of this so called "censoring" is happening in/on private property, and not actually censoring. The owners of property have every right to set the conditions of use, if any, for any.
If Trump, et al, want to pretend that these private properties are actually essential, and the owners of them don't have the right to set whatever conditions, perhaps they should nationalize them, and auction them off to an acceptable group of sole US citizen bidders who agree to whatever standard.
...or the US could go back to respect property rights, despite it supposedly being out of fashion these days.
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#87Regardless of your political persuasion, you should be concerned about this. Massive multinational corporations having this much power over our speech is not healthy. If they can do this to a sitting President of the US, they can do it to every single one of us.
Actually, I am pretty happy about people taking the threat of far-right extremism seriously.
Last time we didn't take it seriously, 6 million perished in extermination camps.
I'd like for that to not happen again. I think that is a bit more important than what apps you can run on your phone.
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#88It must feel pretty surreal to be someone that is constantly moving to different communication apps and instantly finding them pulled by anyone and everyone. We've seen an escalation of this from higher-level platforms (obviously Twitter can ban an account if they desire) to medium-level platforms (I suppose Apple gets to pick what I can do on my own phone even if it feels a bit wrong), but I'm curious if this will a…
Apple: “Parler has not taken adequate measures to address the proliferation of these threats to people’s safety. We have suspended Parler from the App Store until they resolve these issues.”
Seems pretty reasonable in light of what we've witness Wednesday Jan 6th at the Capitol.
Why would we want to interpret this reaction as being an escalation or an all-out assault on the 1st Amendment?
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#90Big tech is doing everyone a favor right now with this censorship. It will get us faster to decentralized alternatives.
> John Gilmore, one of the founders of the EFF, once famously wrote, "The ‘net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it."