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Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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facebook removed the blue verified tick from apple official page on facebook. the page has 13 million+ followers.

'Verified' ticks in general are so bizarrely mismanaged. See also Twitter removing the status of controversial political figures. I feel like they should be totally open access to anyone who can provide irrefutable proof of identity, rather than these odd status symbols.

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

#82

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In terms of pay, having compared offers before, one would be better of at Facebook than Google but tied with Apple. Apple has less perks but more monetary compensation to make up for it because their stock isn’t nearly the liability and Apple actually releases new products and services instead of sucking their existing property dry. Who would want to work at Facebook? There is literally nothing your company does wort…

Huh I don’t know. Maybe the $200k salary for entry level developers is exciting? Or maybe it’s the ability to work on a product that is a household name for billions of people?

Working for Facebook doesn't have quit the social capital it used to. Besides there's a such thing as enjoying my and believing the work you do is valuable. If ultimately you can only trave your effort back to ad clicks, that's not very enticing.

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

#83

I was a big supporter of Apple for a long time and welcomed privacy focused initiatives when they first started making noise a while back. However since then I’ve become much more skeptical. Apple is no less evil or different; okay, I take that back, they are slightly better but I’m no longer a fanboy. I don’t think the Apple of today, who carefully monitor what everybody does on their macs and make it difficult / an…

“...who carefully monitor what everybody does on their macs”

People keep making statements like this, but I have so far never seen anyone actually show any evidence for it.

What makes you think this is true?

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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The idea of doing a public campaign over this is so myopic that I cannot fathom the thinking about it. Who’s going to rally for Facebook? Did they really expected Apple to change this? The ad should scare investors much more than Apple’s move.

I think when you consider Mark Zuckerberg’s view of you and I, and the world at large, it makes sense. https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1299158-fake-mark-zuckerberg...

What does a meme that are jokes have to do with anything?

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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I was a big supporter of Apple for a long time and welcomed privacy focused initiatives when they first started making noise a while back. However since then I’ve become much more skeptical. Apple is no less evil or different; okay, I take that back, they are slightly better but I’m no longer a fanboy. I don’t think the Apple of today, who carefully monitor what everybody does on their macs and make it difficult / an…

Privacy aligns with Apple’s revenue model (selling hardware) but not with Facebook’s (selling ads). This is the only reason you should have faith that Apple will work to protect your privacy, while Facebook will work to undermine it.

I don't believe this for a second. Apple's largest revenue growth has been in services, and they are sitting on a trove of data. They have a million bad incentives.

Honestly I can't believe we're even having this discussion. It's like Google all over again.

Apple says "trust us" but gives us no way to verify the trust. Trust without verification is a long-term recipe for disaster.

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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Do you realize that Apple isn't that popular outside of US and Apple can't kill anything with its actions?

Apple is the biggest company in the world by a pretty significant margin[0]. The clout they wield is absolutely insane and they could kill many things if they were so inclined.

[0] -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_public_corporations_by...

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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I was a big supporter of Apple for a long time and welcomed privacy focused initiatives when they first started making noise a while back. However since then I’ve become much more skeptical. Apple is no less evil or different; okay, I take that back, they are slightly better but I’m no longer a fanboy. I don’t think the Apple of today, who carefully monitor what everybody does on their macs and make it difficult / an…

For many if not most people, an iPhone's raison d'etre is to connect to these ad driven services. It is annoying that Apple gets a pass because their business is merely selling shovels rather than mining gold.

What is apple getting a ‘pass’ from?

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

#88

Anyone who can successfully predict downfall of large publicly traded companies can work for a hedge fund and make tens of millions of dollars a year. Anyone who cannot predict such events can write articles for a magazine claiming otherwise. At least it helps sell their speaking and consulting engagements.

this is wisdom

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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Sure, but it's still not enough. FB recruiters are super aggressive and I have zero qualms unloading on them for their BS behavior, every. time. I've asked five (5!) times to be taken off their list and added to a blacklist for candidates and I still get emails, calls, and LinkedIn messages. The first two "buzz-off" messages were polite, but now I'm just downright rude and respond with my actual opinion on their empl…

> I've asked five (5!) times to be taken off their list and added to a blacklist for candidates and I still get emails, calls, and LinkedIn messages. This is like complaining to the person who called you about your vehicle warranty or any other spam auto-dialer. Recruiting is a numbers game so sending you an email with thousands of others requires no effort on their part.

Putting my # and email address on a blacklist in their CRM shouldn't be too difficult for a company with resources such as FB. If two-bit recruiting agencies can do it in the middle-of-nowhere Iowa then FB can do it.

Sorry, not changing my opinion here.

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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Sure, but it's still not enough. FB recruiters are super aggressive and I have zero qualms unloading on them for their BS behavior, every. time. I've asked five (5!) times to be taken off their list and added to a blacklist for candidates and I still get emails, calls, and LinkedIn messages. The first two "buzz-off" messages were polite, but now I'm just downright rude and respond with my actual opinion on their empl…

I’ve had the same issue with Google recruiters. I imagine they copy each other’s tactics. One time they asked why I turned them down; I was more than happy to respond. Haven’t heard back since.

The recruiters are the same people so of course they use the same tactics. The average tenure of a recruiter is 1-2 years.
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