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In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour (2019)

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Re: In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour (2019)

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jeffbee wrote: post #20
paulpauper wrote: post #9

When pundits --on either side of the pollical spectrum--talk about how bad America is or how things are on the verge of collapse societally, show them stats such as this. By almost every metric, as bad as things may seem, they were objectively worse decades ago. Yeah, it feels like people are angrier than ever, especially online, but Twitter is not real life. A combination of increased tech surveillance, longer priso…

It's not just bank robbery. Every crime category is now much lower than it was in 1990, in every jurisdiction of the USA. Even if you take a city that people think is ridiculously dangerous, like Camden, New Jersey, the homicide rate was triple 25 years ago.

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Re: In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour (2019)

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asveikau wrote: post #63
Melting_Harps wrote: post #6

Yeah, many of us that grew up in SoCal recall the heist that led to the so called 'assault weapon' ban, it was completely legal to have a long barrel rifle with 30 round magazines in CA prior to that--they could be open-carried if not loaded back then if I recall correctly, too. This was around the time of the LA riots in the 90s, too... which in my mind all happened at the same time as I recall being a kid sat in fr…

> Yeah, many of us that grew up in SoCal recall the heist that led to the so called 'assault weapon' ban I always heard it was events in California (and Diane Feinstein being a key player) that created the ban, but I never heard a specific event in SoCal being the catalyst. Wikipedia cites a school shooting in Stockton in 1989 and an office shooting in San Francisco in 1993. Outside of the state, Wikipedia also cites…

> Lately there has been a resurgence, especially in the political right, of the cities are dangerous mantra. It seems pretty odd to me.

Urban violence (such as in Chicago and Minneapolis) might have something to do with it.

[0] https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-police-homicides-murder-repo...

[1] https://www.startribune.com/staggering-surge-in-violent-carj...

Re: In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour (2019)

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Post by azernik »

nabla9 wrote: post #67
jeffbee wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just bank robbery. Every crime category is now much lower than it was in 1990, in every jurisdiction of the USA. Even if you take a city that people think is ridiculously dangerous, like Camden, New Jersey, the homicide rate was triple 25 years ago.

Not just in the US. Also in Europe and most of the developed world. Violence peaked in 80's - 90s and then started to decrease dramatically. Lead–crime connection is the strongest explanation. Past lead exposure functions as a predictor for criminal activity. Crime starts to drop in every country after the use of leaded gasoline is forbidden. New evidence that lead exposure increases crime https://www.brookings.edu/b…

More interestingly, we also have cross-national natural experiments, where different countries banned lead gasoline at different times, and the timing of drops in the crime rate is pretty spot-on

https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/08/murder-rate-d...

Re: In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour (2019)

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Post by asveikau »

chordalkeyboard wrote: post #82
asveikau wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yeah, many of us that grew up in SoCal recall the heist that led to the so called 'assault weapon' ban I always heard it was events in California (and Diane Feinstein being a key player) that created the ban, but I never heard a specific event in SoCal being the catalyst. Wikipedia cites a school shooting in Stockton in 1989 and an office shooting in San Francisco in 1993. Outside of the state, Wikipedia also cites…

> Lately there has been a resurgence, especially in the political right, of the cities are dangerous mantra. It seems pretty odd to me. Urban violence (such as in Chicago and Minneapolis) might have something to do with it. [0] https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-police-homicides-murder-repo... [1] https://www.startribune.com/staggering-surge-in-violent-carj...

I haven't looked at data in a while, but I am pretty sure those places are safer than they were in the 80s.

Re: In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour (2019)

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Post by pault »

momokoko wrote: post #47

It’s interesting as an older person to realize that Americans born in the 90s and later have no real concept of the amount of crime and violence that was widespread in US.

Also interesting that as a kid born in 1980 at the start of the drug violence epidemic, we were allowed to roam as we pleased as long as we were home for dinner. Contrast that to today's vastly safer world, and kids are not allowed to walk the neighborhood unsupervised.

Re: In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour (2019)

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Post by seabird »

lumost wrote: post #79
post_break wrote: post #36

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I think you can still own both. The bazooka will need a tax stamp for each round if I’m not mistaken. I believe there are still transferable m79 grenade launchers and there are definitely M16 under barrel attachments you can buy.

From a legal standpoint, has any limit been placed on the second ammendment? could someone/has someone sued on the claim they should have access to WMDs?

Chemical, biological, nuclear, and anti-aircraft weapons are off-limits according to federal law. These rules have been enforced against people with terrorist intentions, but I would imagine any private citizen who believes they should be able to have them and can actually acquire them doesn't really feel the need to bother with fighting the law so long as they don't use them.

Re: In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour (2019)

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Post by awinter-py »

> In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour of every day.

> 1992, the worst year of all, there was an almost unimaginable 2,641 heists, one every 45 minutes of each banking day. On a particularly bad day for the FBI that year, bandits committed 28 bank licks

these are not the same statement. 'average ~1 per hour while banks are open' isn't the same as 'minimum 1 per hour', nor is it the same as 'every hour of every day'

Re: In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour (2019)

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Post by chordalkeyboard »

asveikau wrote: post #84
chordalkeyboard wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Lately there has been a resurgence, especially in the political right, of the cities are dangerous mantra. It seems pretty odd to me. Urban violence (such as in Chicago and Minneapolis) might have something to do with it. [0] https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-police-homicides-murder-repo... [1] https://www.startribune.com/staggering-surge-in-violent-carj...

I haven't looked at data in a while, but I am pretty sure those places are safer than they were in the 80s.

Thats entirely possible and it probably wouldn't be seen to rebut the right-wing narrative that "cities are dangerous" to tell them "you should see how dangerous cities used to be."

Re: In 1980s Los Angeles, a bank was robbed every hour (2019)

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Post by chordalkeyboard »

coupdejarnac wrote: post #37
blackrock wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sounds like the 80s were more fun. We had Miami Vice, MacGyver, The A-Team, Knight Rider, and Battlestar Galactica back then. And homes were still affordable places to live in.

Homes were affordable, but interest rates were like 13%.

Thats because interest rates and home prices have an inverse relationship.
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