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Tillis Releases Text of Bipartisan Legislation to Fight Illegal Streaming

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If the United States’ populace elects its officials, why do the representatives act against the populace’s wishes? Is this typical of all governments with elected representation? Are they solving different organizational problems that most people are not aware of? I am curious how such a system arises, maintains itself, and is resilient to change.

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"Last year, one study reported that digital video piracy costs the U.S. economy $29.2 billion a year." Well, I'd say that it in fact saves $30 billion a year. People can use it to buy more important stuff - such as food.

Next post you'll be complaining that the food the people are buying is unhealthy.

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The whole bill is nonsense like this, on one hand, and unrelated pork on the other. 700 million to Sudan? Find a non-Sudanese-American who thinks that's a good idea. Just one. Find one. Millions for "gender" programs in Pakistan. Oh, good, that will cheer me up when I am doing my taxes in April. And the usual tribute to Israel.

Curiously, the President finally gets some money for his wall, so that's at least plausibly for the good of the people, though I doubt it will ameliorate any damage done by Covid-19. Actually, Covid-19 made it less useful than before, but whatever.

Re: Tillis Releases Text of Bipartisan Legislation to Fight Illegal Streaming

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a common misconception that piracy is a loss of business. It's nothing more than an overestimation in profits. How can companies say they lose profit when the only realistic way I see for that is someone getting a refund and spending it on a competitor?

It may not be everyone, but there are a number of pirates who would buy a subscription to a legal streaming service if illegal streaming was not as easily available.

The converse relationship seems well represented by some recent digital music access like iTunes and Spotify. Many would-be customers turn to piracy when piracy is _more_ convenient than legitimate alternatives. I think movies and tv shows have become more accessible through legitimate channels, but the fragmentation of the streaming platforms certainly limits future convenience.

Re: Tillis Releases Text of Bipartisan Legislation to Fight Illegal Streaming

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This title is misleading: > The Protecting Lawful Streaming Act would apply only to commercial, for-profit streaming piracy services. The law will not sweep in normal practices by online service providers, good faith business disputes, noncommercial activities, or in any way impact individuals who access pirated streams or unwittingly stream unauthorized copies of copyrighted works. Individuals who might use pirate s…

This appears to be correct from reading the (very short) text[0]. Everyone discussing this law should really read the text instead of reading whatever nonsense the media is spinning.

Here's the full text of what is being prohibited:

> PROHIBITED ACT.

> — It shall be unlawful to willfully, and for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain, offer or provide to the public a digital transmission service that

> (1) is primarily designed or provided for the purpose of publicly performing works protected under title 17 by means of a digital transmission without the authority of the copyright owner or the law;

> (2) has no commercially significant purpose or use other than to publicly perform works protected under title 17 by means of a digital transmission without the authority of the copyright owner or the law;

> or (3) is intentionally marketed by or at the direction of that person to promote its use in publicly performing works protected under title 17 by means of a digital transmission without the authority of the copyright owner or the law.

From my understanding, this basically means they'll go after platforms (since they are the ones doing the act of offering to the public a digital transmission service).

[0] https://www.tillis.senate.gov/services/files/A30B0C08-FB97-4...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone spins up a Twitch clone in a more friendly jurisdiction.

Just like GDPR, doing business in a country subjects you to the laws of said country regardless of where you are incorporated. If this wasn’t the case, a lot of companies would only have to follow the laws of Panama or the Cayman Islands.

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From the article: "The law will not sweep in normal practices by online service providers, good faith business disputes, noncommercial activities, or in any way impact individuals who access pirated streams or unwittingly stream unauthorized copies of copyrighted works. Individuals who might use pirate streaming services will not be affected."

Bullshit. You stream a poem and you will be put in chains if the US Attorney has beef.

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post #8

"Last year, one study reported that digital video piracy costs the U.S. economy $29.2 billion a year." Well, I'd say that it in fact saves $30 billion a year. People can use it to buy more important stuff - such as food.

I read on a post somewhere that if you replace "the economy" with "rich people yatch money" a lot of headlines make more sense. "Last year, one study reported that digital video piracy costs the U.S. rich people yatch money $29.2 billion a year."

Yacht?

Re: Tillis Releases Text of Bipartisan Legislation to Fight Illegal Streaming

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post #8

"Last year, one study reported that digital video piracy costs the U.S. economy $29.2 billion a year." Well, I'd say that it in fact saves $30 billion a year. People can use it to buy more important stuff - such as food.

It's a common misconception that piracy is a loss of business. It's nothing more than an overestimation in profits. How can companies say they lose profit when the only realistic way I see for that is someone getting a refund and spending it on a competitor?

I value my comments on HN at $5/view. I lose an estimated 50k/year to people not paying for the value they get from reading my comments.

Re: Tillis Releases Text of Bipartisan Legislation to Fight Illegal Streaming

#90
post #14

Can someone explain this? What is illegal streaming? Streaming copyrighted content? Isn't that already illegal?

In the US, there is a distinction between illegal and felonious conduct. The latter is a subset of the former. Being charged with a felony offence is much more serious than being charged with a misdemeanor offence.
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