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Re: Show HN: Pop.com – Video Calls, in 3D

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Post by vincentmarle »

sbarre wrote: post #3

Your homepage doesn't explain anything about what I should do when I land on it. What's a space? What's going to happen if I create or join one? Why would I want to do this? Or is this intentional and you're soft-launching or just doing some testing? edit: I clicked create a space and you immediately ask for access to my camera.. but there's no explanation of why you're asking for it, or what I'm getting out of it. I…

I gave access to my camera and everything, but I didn't understand what this product does until I saw this screenshot in another thread: https://i.imgur.com/VVt0zCU.jpg

I think it would be really helpful if you could see your own avatar.

Re: Show HN: Pop.com – Video Calls, in 3D

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Post by hectormalot »

y10003 wrote: post #7

https://www.getmibo.com does something very similar.

I’ve used Mibo for a bunch of department meetings at it was very well received! One of the great things is that it allows you to have serendipitous meetings with people you haven’t spoken to for a while just by running into them on the island.

Great team as well! They helped us set it up in a way that also worked for the corporate firewall.

I believe they use Jitsi as their backend, combined with some cool engineering to make it all work on k8s.

Re: Show HN: Pop.com – Video Calls, in 3D

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Post by andy_ppp »

andybak wrote: post #75
andy_ppp wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you mean, as long as it explains why, what and how in the shortest possible number of words it’s a good video. Spending time trying to be funny or not actually explaining would be bad, if it takes a while to explain more thought and structure may be needed.

No. I mean exactly what I said. Audio is unnecessary and means I have to stop everything else I'm doing. And so does anyone else in the same room unless I can find headphones. And 3 or 4 seconds is ample time to demonstrate that specific aspect that is hard to demonstrate with the written word.

Sorry, I didn't mean to come across that way. I understand how you would like it, but personally I'm happy to play a video with sounds if it explains things quickly and clearly.

Re: Show HN: Pop.com – Video Calls, in 3D

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Post by ketamine__ »

Raphmedia wrote: post #5

Here's a screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/VVt0zCU.jpg In short, you move around in the virtual space and your avatar's head is your webcam feed. There is also positional audio, so your position changes who you hear. User can also apparently spawn screen share windows in the sky. Give it a try, it works and feel better than it looks. It is very similar to what you'd find in a VR chat application but it works surprising…

I want to feel more of a connection with my coworkers too. This isn't it. This looks like something from 1990.

Re: Show HN: Pop.com – Video Calls, in 3D

#87

Post by Rebelgecko »

lotaezenwa wrote: post #77
myoffe wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your criticism is fair, except the camera access. It's a video chat tool, of course it's going to ask you to use your camera. What do you expect?

There is nothing to expect because the landing page has no useful information, as the parent comment stated.

If you check out the text of the link at the top of the page, it has some helpful context. Specifically, that the linked website is for "video calls, in 3D"

Re: Show HN: Pop.com – Video Calls, in 3D

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Post by systemvoltage »

sbarre wrote: post #3

Your homepage doesn't explain anything about what I should do when I land on it. What's a space? What's going to happen if I create or join one? Why would I want to do this? Or is this intentional and you're soft-launching or just doing some testing? edit: I clicked create a space and you immediately ask for access to my camera.. but there's no explanation of why you're asking for it, or what I'm getting out of it. I…

Did Google tell people in a landing page what it was back 20 years ago like we expect startups to do?

This is not some universal rule that cannot be broken. For most startups, landing page is useful. But not always.

I like the simplicity of Pop's page.

Re: Show HN: Pop.com – Video Calls, in 3D

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Post by EvilPaticus »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #87
lotaezenwa wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is nothing to expect because the landing page has no useful information, as the parent comment stated.

If you check out the text of the link at the top of the page, it has some helpful context. Specifically, that the linked website is for "video calls, in 3D"

But in any other context you'll likely not know what it is. Even with the title, I have very very little idea of what it means. Video calls with one other person? Multiple? Are they recorded? Define "3D". There needs to be at least some high level explanation on the page (or a link to one).

Re: Show HN: Pop.com – Video Calls, in 3D

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Post by itsovermyhead »

systemvoltage wrote: post #88
sbarre wrote: post #3

Your homepage doesn't explain anything about what I should do when I land on it. What's a space? What's going to happen if I create or join one? Why would I want to do this? Or is this intentional and you're soft-launching or just doing some testing? edit: I clicked create a space and you immediately ask for access to my camera.. but there's no explanation of why you're asking for it, or what I'm getting out of it. I…

Did Google tell people in a landing page what it was back 20 years ago like we expect startups to do? This is not some universal rule that cannot be broken. For most startups, landing page is useful. But not always. I like the simplicity of Pop's page.

"Search the web using Google" https://i.imgur.com/9XDWpVk.png

or an even earlier version of Google, "Search Stanford" "Search the Web" https://i.imgur.com/EKiQnJX.png

They both provide more information than Pop does.

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