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America Lacks Meaningful Innovation

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Re: America Lacks Meaningful Innovation

#81
Poppycock.

Health care's problems in the United States are not technical. Health Care's problems are regulatory, and systemic. (My day job is in health care for the last 20 years in 35 hospitals in 5 states.) Health care's problems in poor countries are primarily due to a lack of hygine and clean water. Most of the rest of their problems can be helped with decent tropical disease vaccine research. That’s not an interest or willingness issue, that’s a funding and economics issue.

There are massive amounts of funding for clean/green tech right now. Those innovations are going to be hard, and come slowly, but we do have a lot of brilliant minds working on those problems.

I dare say I have a front seat at the innovation table by hosting the largest group of garage stage startups at Hackers & Founders Silicon Valley. I see a lot of amazingly cool stuff months before it hits event the startup press.

Here's what I see:

Founders building social media startups are rare. Precious few founders think about monetizing via ads, unless they are building a search engine. Funding for ad based, or social media startups are hard to come by unless they show tons of traction before funding.

The coolest apps I'm seeing built are hardware peripherals to mobile phones or mobile devices: An ultrasound probe attached to an iPhone that can serve as a fetal heart monitor. Motion tracking devices that can be attached to your head and ankle so you can control a racing game on your iPad while excdcising on your bike.

There’s a ton of innovation happening around the food space, creating new markets for food producers and consumers.

There are also companies like Genomera.com, which is building a system for crowd sourced clinical trials. Factual.com is building an open source model around big data.

BioCurious is a very cool hacker space/community around DIY bio that’s getting organized. As the costs of bio hacking come down, there’s going to be a ton of innovation there.

There’s tons of innovation surrounding the Kinect. I talked with the CEO of Health 2.0 a few weeks ago, and a Neurologist and a programmer got together at one of their hackathons, and in a weekend, built a pediatric gait abnormality monitor. Wait until the official SDK comes out, and drivers are included in Windows 8, and you’re going to see some really cool things.

The very fabric and character of Silicon Valley is changing because of innovation in how companies are funded (Angel List). Hundreds, and soon thousands of two to four person startups are going to be funded. I believe what’s going to happen is because of that, the rate of innovation in Silicon Valley and around the globe is going to accelerate dramatically.

You complain that there's no innovation because everybody is just building gadgets. Gadgets like cell phones are revolutionizing 3rd world economies, and mobile payments via cell phones are creating truly disruptive innovation like electronic banking and electronic money transfer. I visited my brother doing economic development in Honduras, and most everyone carries a cell phone, even if they live in a house with a dirt floor.

Have you looked at the innovations that are happening in robotics? My nephew is studying at a community college in rural Minnesota right now, and he’s in a robotics competition. He’s programming a robot that can crawl around and check to see if a seedling tree is dead or not. If it’s dead, the robot pulls the seedling. If not, it keeps driving.

Open your eyes. Stop reading Tech Crunch. Go to Maker Faire. Awesome things are happening and you don’t even realize it.

And, if you're sick of the lack of innovation... then create something. Complaining about it online does nothing.

Re: America Lacks Meaningful Innovation

#82
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|Kids are creative, middle age people are not. In most fields(except the web) , most serious entrepreneurs are around 40.

How dare you go against the Cannon of YC/TechCrunch Everyone who is 30+ is an idiot. People are smartest when they are in High school and progressively detoriate as they learn more

People are smartest when they're old, but they're also the most risk-averse when they're old.

60 year olds today are generally uninterested in creating the future. Their main concern is with their own health I find. The more active 60 year olds also seem to love playing with real estate, buying/selling/renovating.

It's very hard to get them to invest in some future technology which will change the world.

Re: America Lacks Meaningful Innovation

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These articles constantly surface and they are beyond stupid. Facebook is VERY meaningful, 99 Designs (Helping small companies exist) is very meaningful. Marginalizing innovation because they arent curing cancer is stupid and misses the value.

Facebook, well I agree is meaningful. But n th Facebook app/game, photosharing, UX/Design nonsensical blogging platform is surely isnt innovation. The issue is that while Wealth might be a non zero sum game, talent is a zero sum game. More people making crap apps mean lesser people working on meaningful innovation in Healthcare, Energy and Computing. And this sad trend is started by YC/TC and the likes. Actually all…

So put your money where you mouth is and pay me to work on robotics and space travel.

Offer any 25 year old this choice:

a) You can be paid $100k/year and work on space travel.

b) You can go found a photosharing startup and I'll fund it.

The far majority will choose (a).

But guess what? No one is funding space travel, and when they do fund space travel, the 25-year-olds they hire are generally just sexy female secretaries who fetch them coffee.

Offer a 25 year old a challenging job in the space travel field and he will take it. The jobs aren't there. No one with money gives a fuck about space travel aside from Richard Branson who won't hire me because I don't have 30 years of experience being a rocket scientist.

Why is it so hard to become an apprentice to a rocket scientist? Why are there so few jobs in this field, and so many in sharing photos and affiliate marketing?

Re: America Lacks Meaningful Innovation

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Oh, boo-hoo. You've also apparently been raised to believe that someone (probably the government in some form) owed you the life of your dreams, and as it dawns that you might have to work for a living, you assume your "rights" are being violated, have a tantrum, and compose yet another leftist manifesto. I suspect there is something wrong with how you were educated by "the system," but it's not what you think.

Here I was thinking that everyone on the Internet had seen Fight Club, and you go and prove me wrong.

Doh! Sorry, jff. You're right, I haven't seen Fight Club, only Faculty Club, but the resemblance is uncanny....

Re: America Lacks Meaningful Innovation

#85
I'm very skeptical of all those marketing centered developments as well, but throwing entertainment in that same bucket is nonsense.

Entertainment is an end in itself. Marketing is a means to an end without (much) intrinsic value. These two things are as far apart as two economic activities can ever be.

Re: America Lacks Meaningful Innovation

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true, but why is working for the man perceived as a bad thing? Could it be "the man's" fault? I happen to work for the man and here are some issues. I can't release code as open source, I get paid the same regardless of whether I work my ass off or just do enough to be ahead of the curve, I have virtually no say in our products because I'm just an engineer (we have product people for product design), I have to get an…

You're ideal man is a university professor, he gets funding from NSF and NIH, and if you do work your ass off, Yes you do get significant share of the credit. Go to a CS PhD program if you really want to innovate, forget all the crap that is spread on HN if you do get into top 5 or top 10 school, you will have equal amount of resources and at University even though they do have their own interests, they still want to…

What a PhD does is "invention". The term "innovation" refers to bringing already invented things to the market.

Re: America Lacks Meaningful Innovation

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All of these are hacks. Interesting and useful, but hacks. None of these will be around in ten years. It's not the kind of future-inspiring innovation the author was referring to. Web applications don't seem trivial -- they are trivial. Scaling them means being creative, but don't confuse that with true innovation.

I say this without irony: I think that Facebook changes everything. If Facebook is not around in 10 years, then at least one social networking site will be. People want to be able to easily communicate online with the people they know in a global way. Facebook is becoming the global human database.

You're right that a global database, partially about us and our relationships (including a social network), is the future. Many are working on it, including me. And Facebook has some seed data for that, but that's the extent of it.

We'll remember Facebook in ten years the way we remember MySpace now: We don't. Facebook changes nothing.

Re: America Lacks Meaningful Innovation

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Hadoop rather mapreduce came from Google which is a great innovation. Cassandra came from Dynamo; And Dynamo is from Amazons R and D efforts. Btw Amazon is an innovation as it leads to large amount of savings in energy. Thrift,Tornado,HipHop -> not innovations useful programming tools but not gonna change anything. Rarely any innovations have come out of Web Applications. In fact the best innovation in data mining [T…

Are you seriously saying that Google and Amazon aren't web application companies?

Amazon is of the web, but it has a big impact dependencies on the physical world as an enormous retail & logistics operation.

Re: America Lacks Meaningful Innovation

#89
While many of the best and brightest try their hand with media companies, the bane of the American economy – health care – is begging for talent and innovation.

"Health Care" and the medical industry are not the same thing and that's one of the biggest mental blocks America has. I did the homemaker and full-time mom thing for 2 decades and it allowed me to keep my son with cystic fibrosis remarkably healthy in spite of not having a diagnosis until late in life. Later we were both diagnosed. Because I did the full time mom thing for so long and my idea of "health care" included things like cooking and cleaning (instead of drugs and surgeries), I was able to get well after spending a year at death's door.

I've got your health care talent and innovation right here: http://healthgazelle.com/ and it has nothing to do with the current medical industry.

Now I just need to grow it, learn to write code and create a more information-dense delivery mechanism (aka game).

Re: America Lacks Meaningful Innovation

#90
The article is wildly wrong:

The Web? On the whole, it is wildly 'innovative'. Moreover, it is a huge aid to economic productivity and, thus, standard of living and quality of life.

Search engines? On the whole, they are wildly innovative and productive because they help solve a huge problem on the Internet -- finding stuff.

More in search engines? Yes, needed because the only search, discovery, recommendation, curation engines that work well are the ones based on keywords, and they work well for only about one-third of the content. How to get a search engine that also works well for the other two-thirds? That needs some 'innovation'!

A better search engine will likely have to make progress with how humans understand 'information' and 'meaning', and that will need some 'innovation'.

The author views 'innovation' mostly just in terms of what happened in the first half of the 20th century. Innovation is in different areas now. The author is also missing that to support the new approaches to innovation, Intel is now making 3D transistors with 22 nm feature sizes, and that in itself is history-making innovation.

Ads? So far the Internet is heavily supported by ads. Why? Because it's important to connect people with products and services. Why important? Because a key part of a higher standard of living is having people better allocate their limited resources, and key to this is getting people the information they need for such better allocations. One way to get the information is to have a person use a search engine to find the products and services. Another way is to have a vendor of products and services use ads to find the people. So far both ways are important.

The article wants to assume that ads are bad, and this is not good. There must be something very important about ads since they support nearly all of TV, radio, professional sports, just say, old media, and now the Internet. Pro basketball players? Basically they are in the ad business.

One reason entrepreneurs are rushing to Web x.0 companies is that's where the money is. And the money is not just in the US: The US companies that lead in this work rapidly become successful internationally. It's foolish to say that all this activity, internationally, is bad.

But not everything has to be international: The US did just fine, thank you, from about 1850 to 1950 growing mostly just internally and with relatively little role for foreign trade. So the claim in the article that there's something wrong with the US selling to itself is wrong: The better standard of living we want is from getting the work done, and we get it done by specialization with one person selling to another. All this does better when there is more efficiency, and the information via the Internet is a key here.

More information? Currently the US and more important world economies are in a Great Recession. The core reason? Bad information. Thus much of the solution will be better information. Generally information is just crucial for higher standards of living. The best thing that's happened for information so far is just the Internet.

Internet blogs are important, too: They can clear up misunderstandings caused by confused people!

But for some of the innovation the author seems to be dreaming about, that's coming: The foundation is Moore's law, the Internet, and infrastructure software. Broadly the path to more economic productivity is to automate, that is, have the machines do the work. Yes, we want the machines building houses and cars, growing crops, tending livestock, manufacturing boxes, bottles, and gadgets, making fiber, thread, cloth, and clothes, analyzing data needed for progress, yes, including in medicine, etc. It's coming.

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