Swedish King Carl XVI Gustaf says coronavirus approach 'has failed'

Post by taeric » Sat, Dec 19, 2020, 5:54 AM UTC

learc83 wrote: post #68

taeric wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed on the magnitude. The size of relative spike also looks worse. Such that I really don't know any obvious points to draw. My question on accuracy is more on how well we know the source. A scientific online passive poll is likely still pretty bad. Especially if taken from a partisan audience. Also, just to emphasize. I don't see any obvious points. But that not includes agreeing with the approach Sweden took. I…

Sure the polls that show Swedish people aren't wearing masks could have a huge margin of error. But everyone I've found shows numbers well under 10%. Here's another 2 polls that show around 5% of respondents say they wear masks [1,2]. I assume I could find more if I read Swedish. >without establishing that Sweden had bad compliance with mask wearing. I think what you're seeing is that it's taken as a given because no…

Missed this. Thanks!

Post by brigandish » Wed, Dec 23, 2020, 12:34 AM UTC

pwinnski wrote: post #42

brigandish wrote: post #24

Not only is it probably too early to judge any country's response properly, I wonder how far his expertise, or even just his reasoning, enables him to make a judgement worth listening to. It's worth keeping in mind that the BBC likes to play the journalistic game of "holding the government to account", which really means they will support a kind of response (lockdowns) tacitly while criticising the government for any…

Life comes at you fast, so articles from 2.5 months ago, as the Spectator article is, aren't much more helpful than articles from 6.5 months ago, as the Spiked article is. To the point in the Spectator piece, though, it could easily be argued that the US is similarly incapable of imposing real lockdowns, for both legal and cultural reasons.

I agree about the time aspect, though the Spiked piece was to show that the desire of some in the media for Sweden's failure has been going on for a long time.

> it could easily be argued that the US is similarly incapable of imposing real lockdowns, for both legal and cultural reasons

Completely agree, but again, the media made their focus Trump instead of detailing the situation as it really is (which is not to ignore his input). That must not sell enough papers nowadays.

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