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Re: I lost all my savings in a mistaken Ethereum transaction

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post #37

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Well, it is also possible to send money to the wrong account number by bank transfer. In that case the banks also generally say that they cannot do anything about it.

Wrong account is one of the three specific scenarios the National Automated Clearing House Association permits an ACH reversal for. (The others are wrong amount and duplicate transactions.)

Wire transfers are a better comparison to crypto transactions, and they are less forgiving.

Re: I lost all my savings in a mistaken Ethereum transaction

#82
post #64

The most downvoted comment in the Github issue seems totally right.. why did this guy put his life savings in a crypto? Even without making any mistake this seems like a dumb move.

> why did this guy put his life savings in a crypto Good point, (which was my first reaction.) But consider this: If, when you were young, you bought a few $1000 of Microsoft stock, Apple stock, Google stock, ect, when they went public, that investment could have grown to be the majority of your life savings. Perhaps dawidkabani13 just happened to buy some tokens at the right time? A lot of people don't save. Otherwi…

Let's put aside the comparison of cryptos and stocks for now.

It is absolutely valid to do risky investments. Just as others have written you don't do them with your live savings. I really thought people would know that by now.

Re: I lost all my savings in a mistaken Ethereum transaction

#83
post #10

Aavegotchi setup a donation fund to help out the guy: https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/ke2hxz/aavegotchi...

Given the guy's github avatar icon, not so sure he'll collect much (assumin the donation fund isn't a scam in the first place).

Re: I lost all my savings in a mistaken Ethereum transaction

#84
If the Aveegotchi person is based in a jurisdictions with laws that would be favorable, one solution is to sue him. You could make the argument that he should return the money (and that creating a computer program which was unable to allow him to do so was his own fault).

It’s a similar fact pattern to Citigroup v. Brigade Capital Management (which seems like it could go in Citigroup’s favor).

Of course it seems like the Aveegotchi person is being really nice about this so I don’t think it would be right to sue him, but if I’d just lost my whole life savings maybe I’d think differently.

Re: I lost all my savings in a mistaken Ethereum transaction

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So what? The comment is totally off topic and contributes nothing except to call the guy an idiot. The Github issue is not the right place to do that.

I agree that the comment is a bit harsh but it may add something to the discussion. Hopefully it is a warning to others to not go this path. Where else would you leave such a warning if not in the actual thread?

If watching someone lose $50k USD equivalent doesn't prevent someone else from doing this sort of thing, a random internet meanie will definitely not dissuade them.

Re: I lost all my savings in a mistaken Ethereum transaction

#86
post #64

The most downvoted comment in the Github issue seems totally right.. why did this guy put his life savings in a crypto? Even without making any mistake this seems like a dumb move.

> why did this guy put his life savings in a crypto Good point, (which was my first reaction.) But consider this: If, when you were young, you bought a few $1000 of Microsoft stock, Apple stock, Google stock, ect, when they went public, that investment could have grown to be the majority of your life savings. Perhaps dawidkabani13 just happened to buy some tokens at the right time? A lot of people don't save. Otherwi…

Part of managing an investment portfolio is making sure it remains suitably balanced.

If you bought $100 of crypto back in 2008, then when the price swung rapidly and it became a substantial proportion of your net worth, you probably should have thought "I only invested a token amount as a joke. Has anything changed since then? If not, I should sell all except the token amount I actually intend to own".

Re: I lost all my savings in a mistaken Ethereum transaction

#87

The most downvoted comment in the Github issue seems totally right.. why did this guy put his life savings in a crypto? Even without making any mistake this seems like a dumb move.

So what? The comment is totally off topic and contributes nothing except to call the guy an idiot. The Github issue is not the right place to do that.

I'd call that the workaround patch for others who are exposed to the bug. (/s)

Re: I lost all my savings in a mistaken Ethereum transaction

#88
post #64

The most downvoted comment in the Github issue seems totally right.. why did this guy put his life savings in a crypto? Even without making any mistake this seems like a dumb move.

> why did this guy put his life savings in a crypto Good point, (which was my first reaction.) But consider this: If, when you were young, you bought a few $1000 of Microsoft stock, Apple stock, Google stock, ect, when they went public, that investment could have grown to be the majority of your life savings. Perhaps dawidkabani13 just happened to buy some tokens at the right time? A lot of people don't save. Otherwi…

> But consider this: If, when you were young, you bought a few $1000 of Microsoft stock, Apple stock, Google stock, ect, when they went public, that investment could have grown to be the majority of your life savings.

And if you did it in lots of other promising stocks at the same time, it would have been a major error.

If you have reliable information from the future, sure, it makes sense to dump your life's savings into one basket that is going to pay off. Or if you are young and your “life’s savings” is a trivial fraction of even your annual surplus income, it might make some sense to take an all-in risk speculatively. But, generally, it's a bad idea.

Re: I lost all my savings in a mistaken Ethereum transaction

#89
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sounds dumb to you (and to me for that matter), but plenty of people have made a lot money like that (and plenty who have lost it). Regardless, neither me, you, or the down voted commenter are in a position to tell him he's dumb for doing it. Maybe there is good reason, maybe there isn't, it's not up to us to tell him he's right or wrong in this scenario.

Occasionally people get rich playing roulette, per a sibling comment. Occasional good luck doesn’t validate a bad decision making process.

I'm not validating a bad decision. I'm saying that we don't know anything about why he made that decision, and until we do, we have no right to judge him for it.
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