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Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by oblio »

dahfizz wrote: post #52
walrus01 wrote: post #51

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I sincerely hope that AS3356 hasn't broken a big chunk of the Internet again. https://isc.sans.edu/forums/diary/CenturyLink+Outage+Causing... https://www.zdnet.com/article/centurylink-outage-led-to-a-3-...

My bet is BGP. Its always BGP.

It's been a while since I studied routing, but have they fixed BGP security?

I remember reading about the protocol and thinking something like: this seems awfully "hippie-trust" levels of security.

Granted, this was 10 years ago so my recollection of BGP is super fuzzy :-D

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by walrus01 »

oblio wrote: post #81
dahfizz wrote: post #52

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My bet is BGP. Its always BGP.

It's been a while since I studied routing, but have they fixed BGP security? I remember reading about the protocol and thinking something like: this seems awfully "hippie-trust" levels of security. Granted, this was 10 years ago so my recollection of BGP is super fuzzy :-D

nope. proper and full implementation of BCP38, MANRS, full RPKI validation of all IP ranges and such is a long distance away.

within trusted groups of ISPs where the admins all know each other, in certain specific geographic regions, it's better than others.. I would say that the number of ISPs I could call "fully compliant" with current best practices, in the Portland-Seattle-Vancouver area, is higher than in many other parts of the world.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by ThePadawan »

georgeolaru wrote: post #68
ThePadawan wrote: post #21

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Well my mom knows how to use WhatsApp. All the women in her knitting club are using it to stay in touch with their grandkids. She probably doesn't know what an SMS is (those are those things her bank sends her, right?).

Should be easy – SMS it's the "default" messaging app from a phone, isn't it?

How would my mom find it?

She knows that the green Whatsapp logo is for talking to her friends.

She probably wouldn't click the envelope looking thing.

(I'm not being facetious - IMO HN readers massively overestimate user capability.)

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by jonplackett »

jaimex2 wrote: post #80
the-dude wrote: post #67

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IIRC this is exactly what MS claimed about bundling IE : it was tied into the kernel.

To be fair IE crashing would take out the whole OS.

Back then anything crashing usually took down the whole OS

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by tsjq »

jbverschoor wrote: post #78
mkl95 wrote: post #65

Whatsapp is extremely dominant in my country, but I keep encouraging friends and acquaintances to install Telegram. As far as I know, there won't be anything preventing FB from geoblocking European users when the company eventually gets in some serious trouble, like it just did in the US.

Why telegram and not signal?

Coz , if a lot of people use Signal, govts would surely want to peek into the chats

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by dr-detroit »

georgeolaru wrote: post #71
FirstLvR wrote: post #45

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dont use SMS, even sending an email from a public cyber coffe is safer than an SMS this days

Do you think that Facebook users worry much about their privacy?

In fact Facebook users' SMS is already compromised so they have nothing left to lose since their data, patriotism, self-respect, privacy, and dignity are long gone now.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by Steltek »

breckenedge wrote: post #69
the-dude wrote: post #67

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IIRC this is exactly what MS claimed about bundling IE : it was tied into the kernel.

Yes that was a defense. Explorer.exe and IE were intimately tied together. Remember “active desktop”? You could make your Windows desktop background a web page. Crazy times...

I wouldn't mind that, actually. I could create my own dashboard/background.
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