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Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#82

Regardless of what you believe to be 'The Truth', has suppression or censorship ever worked to quench dissonance or convince skeptical people, again, whether right or wrong, that there really is 'nothing to see here'.

There are many examples out of there of people ending up in some weird conspiracy theory rabbit hole, and often it starts with some youtube video, or post on facebook. Mothers who have lost sons, wives who have lost husbands. They have seen them turn into crazy people

(examples: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/09/14/qanon-f... )

If those videos are not as present on youtube to begin with, perhaps fewer people end up down these rabbit holes. Of course it won't do anything to convince people who are already falling down the hole.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#83

HNers really are clowns - there's a chorus of people acting like this is oppression. When the most powerful people in the United States are constantly spreading lies to destabilize the fundamentals of the country for years to come. Downvote me all you want - it's just proof that SV is full of assclowns. Such a shame that I probably work with some of you idiots.

This is modern book burning.

To combat establishment elites in either side we need more freedom, not less.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#84

So who decides what is true/accurate? Is this action just related to the current election or will this extend to other "fake news" and elections in other countries? Covid news comes to mind.

I bet it will extend to fully cover one side of the aisle, but not cross over to the other.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#85

Regardless of what you believe to be 'The Truth', has suppression or censorship ever worked to quench dissonance or convince skeptical people, again, whether right or wrong, that there really is 'nothing to see here'.

You’re right, people can make their own decisions. The justice warriors should not coddle people’s minds by shaping a narrative according to their own opinions of what radical/right/wrong mean.

Unless...they’re a publication in which case they need to be regulated and taxed accordingly.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#87
post #53

I abhor this, but what can be done about it? I genuinely don't know how to push back against measures like these and I'm hoping people here have some ideas.

If you don't like it, you can upload your videos to one of the other 1000's of platforms or sign up for a shared web host and utilize P2P video sharing.

I have nothing to upload because I'm not a content creator. I think that it's wrong for YouTube to be silencing people this way and I hope there's some way to influence YouTube without abandoning it - because the vast majority of people won't.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#89

Regardless of what you believe to be 'The Truth', has suppression or censorship ever worked to quench dissonance or convince skeptical people, again, whether right or wrong, that there really is 'nothing to see here'.

in France you can get fined or go to jail for saying fascist stuff, works pretty well.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#90
Is there any article or video out there that outlines a compelling case of how massive election fraud could have even occurred ?

I do believe some election fraud happened, how could it not with 150MM voters in this past election. But I have yet to read a single article that could outline any explanation for how democrats stole 8MM votes so Trump lost, but did not change down-ballot votes so that they also lost house seats and other smaller elections (that matter for re-districting etc).

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