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Re: Ragya – Indian classical music played by time of the day

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Post by vatkhrt »

schrectacular wrote: post #46
scoot wrote: post #39

What does "classical" mean in this context? My benchmark for the term "classical" is traditional European classical music, and so I'm having a hard time understanding where this fits in the Indian musical spectrum, either stylistically or temporally.

I think a good rule of thumb for any society's "classical" music is "what do the cultural elites coalesce around" - so in western society the political, business, and academic elites go and be elite-y at the symphony or the opera. In India "educated" or "learned" people will be intimately familiar with many of "raags/ragas" which can be thought of as "tunes" (but they are deeper than that). These ragas are usually me…

Its interesting that in the "long history" of some of these raags, many have moved from folk into the classical realm. To name a few - Mand, Khamaj, Desh. There is also the diffusion of some classical ragas into wider collective conscience through film music, and other forms of "light" music.

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Post by Karishma1234 »

scoot wrote: post #39

What does "classical" mean in this context? My benchmark for the term "classical" is traditional European classical music, and so I'm having a hard time understanding where this fits in the Indian musical spectrum, either stylistically or temporally.

There are two major classical music traditions in India. Hindustani (Indian which is influenced by both Hinduism and later Islamic contribution, Carnatic which is mostly Hindu).

People familiar with Indian music can easily distinguish between classical music and non classical music but for a layman like me the test is :

1. Is the piece being based on some well known Raga (Raga - is a mood or a tune in very rough sense). 2. Is it being sung by a person with years of training in classical music which is learned from a Guru.

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Post by abishekk92 »

jariel wrote: post #75
sigmaml wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you elaborate what you mean by "one scale, in particular, the minor scale"? What you see as a very long solo overtop in one key - in the raga system - has some characteristic phrases or patterns, which are interpretatively exposed extempore. That lends the rendition a great degree of freedom. Further, multiple ragas can share one 'key' too. I would like to understand what you find limiting about that.

Right now: Vijay Kaporkar, Raga Bhairavi. It's 10 minutes long. One chord. One tempo. There's the accordion style instrument playing 3 note drone (reminiscent of pipes), minor chord. There's some keys and vocals moving up and down the minor scale, somewhat randomly. That's it, for 10 minutes. This is pretty exemplary of this kind of music, and it's obviously limiting. By every musical measure, there's not much going…

Can you elaborate how exactly you find it limiting? Granted most Indian classical music historically has been monophonic and the compositions focussed on the melody. Even though it is primarily melodic and lyrical, the microtonal nature of the ragas provides the musician with a tremendous amount of room for improvisation. We've barely scratched surface of what is possible with microtonal harmony.

There are so many musicians, though rooted in tradition have pushed the definition of Indian classical music, like John McLauglin and his band shakti for example [0] or anything Berklee Indian Ensemble does. [1] or the carnatic take five [2]

[0] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzmaT9T2teU

[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn_1O3J56E8

[2] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipCqEcEVFxU

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Post by indysigners »

hbharadwaj wrote: post #2

Thank you! I was literally looking for an Indian music alternative to Generative.fm. May not have been the use case you are trying to target, but it is the use case for me :) Big shout out to Generative.fm as well!

Haven’t heard about generative.fm either so thanks for sharing it!

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Post by biz_booster »

Some SERIOUS questions as this app looks like it is a commercial app created to earn money by playing tracks of the legendary musicians WITHOUT TAKING THEIR PERMISSION violating the legal, moral and ethical values.

1. Idea for this app is stolen from 8 prahar concert

2. Why we have to pay money when the SAME classical music is available freely on YouTube and other platforms? Just bcuz is playing under the app.

3. Is legal permission taken from the musicians or their heirs to play their tracks as many musicians are no more.

4. Are they honestly giving any money back to musicians by playing tracks as a profit share. Pls make the info abt "no. of paid users and % money paid to musicians" public.

5. India being a country of 1300 million people, only 5000+ has downloaded the app means Indians have totally rejected this app.

6. Why non of musicians is promoting this app? something is drastically wrong with this app.

7. Due to corona, music industry & musicians all over the world are promoting their music thr their own channels hence apps like this are not required.

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Post by globular-toast »

njanirudh wrote: post #66

Few band suggestions for people with rock, metal background who want to listen to carnatic music . Agam https://youtu.be/AiPnyxPyVVw Mother Jane https://youtu.be/3y2siWVi-GQ Prasanna guitar https://youtu.be/QA5UWHFg-SE

Also Goa trance for those who like electronic music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4C6a38xPy0
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