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Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon

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Re: Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon

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Post by jonny_eh »

divbzero wrote: post #41
sumanthvepa wrote: post #21

What M1 giveth, Electron taketh away. Sigh.

Indeed, can’t decide if I’m happy or sad to see this news.

The alternative is Rosetta mode. It's not like Slack is going to write a native app all of a sudden.

Re: Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon

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Post by FlyingSnake »

andy_ppp wrote: post #63
sumanthvepa wrote: post #21

What M1 giveth, Electron taketh away. Sigh.

Hang on, I use Visual Studio Code daily and it’s really fast? Certainly compared to XCode or Jet Brains IDEs.

Apples to oranges comparison. VS Code is a text editor whereas Xcode and Jetbrains are IDEs. The real comparison should be with Sublime Text vs VS Code. Sublime Text blows VSCode out of water while opening the same project folder.

Here's a naive comparison

    ~/workspace/iOS Project(develop)
     time subl .
    
    ________________________________________________________
    Executed in   75.46 millis    fish           external
       usr time   21.45 millis  106.00 micros   21.34 millis
       sys time   14.84 millis  659.00 micros   14.18 millis
    
    
    ~/workspace/iOS Project(develop)
     time code .
    
    ________________________________________________________
    Executed in    4.18 secs   fish           external
       usr time  123.39 millis   99.00 micros  123.29 millis
       sys time  175.07 millis  585.00 micros  174.49 millis

Re: Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon

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Post by thiht »

Phlogistique wrote: post #65

For some reason this announcement gets displayed to me in a unholy mix of French and English: > Electron 11.0.0 est disponible ! It includes upgrades to Chromium 87, V8 8.7, and Node.js 12.18.3. We've added support for Apple silicon, and general improvements. Lisez la suite ci-dessous pour plus de détails ! > La team Electron est excitée d'annoncer la sortie de Electron 11.0.0 ! Vous pouvez l'installer avec npm via n…

It's mix, and the parts written in French are atrocious. Is that an automatically generated translation?

I mean "changement de pile" for "stack changes", really? I had to pause to understand the sentence.

I'd prefer websites to stop pushing half assed translation and just serve English if they don't have the resources to translate properly.

Re: Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon

#86

Post by tjoff »

jonny_eh wrote: post #81
divbzero wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, can’t decide if I’m happy or sad to see this news.

The alternative is Rosetta mode. It's not like Slack is going to write a native app all of a sudden.

Maybe use an alternative that is native?

Re: Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon

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Post by jonny383 »

cannedslime wrote: post #80
mrtksn wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's something I wonder too. What VS Code does right that, let's say Slack, fails on?

Slack is a messy one page app developed by PHP programmers and vscode is open source and actually made by competent people.

And I suppose Facebook is therefore also developed by incompetent PHP programmers despite being one of the largest technology companies in the world?

Re: Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon

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Post by bengale »

gfody wrote: post #15
alwayssmh wrote: post #7

i don't recall such support when msft was launching arm based laptops. does anyone have insight to why this is so? is it a case of apple developer relations doing an outstanding job engaging with the community?

I think the significant advent is the M1 chip itself. I was never interested in Win10 ARM edition until the prospect of running it on an M1 Mac. Unfortunately it looks like Apple have taken this opportunity to drop support for alternative OSes entirely.

Isn't windows for arm restricted to OEM on Microsoft's side?

Re: Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon

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Post by alwillis »

fenomas wrote: post #22
alwayssmh wrote: post #7

i don't recall such support when msft was launching arm based laptops. does anyone have insight to why this is so? is it a case of apple developer relations doing an outstanding job engaging with the community?

> apple developer relations Is there such a thing? Honest question, not snark - I've never heard of them doing any. Where/who?

Is there such a thing?

Of course. Who do you think runs the beta program, seeds developers with prerelease hardware so they can port their apps and all the rest?

https://developer.apple.com/support/

Re: Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon

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Post by mrpippy »

alwayssmh wrote: post #7

i don't recall such support when msft was launching arm based laptops. does anyone have insight to why this is so? is it a case of apple developer relations doing an outstanding job engaging with the community?

To Microsoft, ARM64 is a hobby.

Windows 10 ARM64 laptops went on sale in February 2018, but Microsoft didn't release an official toolchain with ARM64 support (VS 15.9) until November 2018! Even an "early preview" didn't come out until May 2018.

Combine that with the lack of 64-bit Intel emulation support (which is coming out...any day now), and it's clear this is just a hobby for Microsoft. And Qualcomm too, since they have nothing to offer besides phone SoCs that are barely competitive even in phones.

Oh, you want a desktop machine to develop on, or use for CI or tests? Sorry, only laptops.

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