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Ik.me: a free email address for life developed and hosted in Switzerland

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Re: Ik.me: a free email address for life developed and hosted in Switzerland

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Post by nix23 »

karamanolev wrote: post #62
systemvoltage wrote: post #45

Folks - pay $5/month for Fastmail, Migadu, ProtonMail, or self host + your own domain name. Companies like this come and go, it’s a good chance you’ll still own the domain name. There is no such thing as free. They’ll nag you for hosting on their site. UI will degrade over time. Something will give, if not now, at some point in the future. Lifetime is a bold claim. I’m being cynical but this smells like an attempt to…

I do agree that Swiss laws are generally good, but consumer protection is significantly worse than for example the EU. For many things, a EU person will take something for granted and get screwed over, mostly in terms of strange socially accepted norms + "if it's in the AGB (terms of service) good luck arguing/defending".

>I do agree that Swiss laws are generally good, but consumer protection is significantly worse than for example the EU.

I'm Swiss and i have to tell you that your 100% right!

Even the ~good privacy was slaughtered with the last Secret service law. The NDB (the Swiss CIA/NSA-komplex) has a really mixed past.

Started with the CryptoAG Skandal (aka never trust/buy Swiss security Products ever), the Data-leak (everyone had access to any digital datas...), and the Fichen-skandal (where the NDB/UNA wanted to be a bit more like the Stasi in east germany)

Re: Ik.me: a free email address for life developed and hosted in Switzerland

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Post by nix23 »

onebot wrote: post #76
karamanolev wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do agree that Swiss laws are generally good, but consumer protection is significantly worse than for example the EU. For many things, a EU person will take something for granted and get screwed over, mostly in terms of strange socially accepted norms + "if it's in the AGB (terms of service) good luck arguing/defending".

Switzerland isn't part of the EU.

That's why he compared it WITH the EU.

Re: Ik.me: a free email address for life developed and hosted in Switzerland

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Post by omnimus »

systemvoltage wrote: post #45

Folks - pay $5/month for Fastmail, Migadu, ProtonMail, or self host + your own domain name. Companies like this come and go, it’s a good chance you’ll still own the domain name. There is no such thing as free. They’ll nag you for hosting on their site. UI will degrade over time. Something will give, if not now, at some point in the future. Lifetime is a bold claim. I’m being cynical but this smells like an attempt to…

Also german ones mailbox.org, posteo, tutanota and norwegian runbox.

Mailbox has been around since early 90s ive been happy user for a longtime.

You make good point that Swiss (German also) laws should protect your privacy more than US laws. That includes fastmail and icloud.

Re: Ik.me: a free email address for life developed and hosted in Switzerland

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Post by systemvoltage »

nunodonato wrote: post #73
systemvoltage wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FastMail is an amazing company. Their UI is old school and packs a punch. Their mobile app is fantastic . They also invented some new JSON based email standard: https://jmap.io/

I Love fastmail,just renewed my yearly subscription. Having that said, the mobile app is not fantastic at all. Try working with it with a poor or non-existent connection and good luck even accessing your calendar

I’ve used their mobile app on iPhone just for reading email. It’s great! But I guess it can be better.

Re: Ik.me: a free email address for life developed and hosted in Switzerland

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Post by nix23 »

systemvoltage wrote: post #45

Folks - pay $5/month for Fastmail, Migadu, ProtonMail, or self host + your own domain name. Companies like this come and go, it’s a good chance you’ll still own the domain name. There is no such thing as free. They’ll nag you for hosting on their site. UI will degrade over time. Something will give, if not now, at some point in the future. Lifetime is a bold claim. I’m being cynical but this smells like an attempt to…

Don't forget tutanota ;)

Re: Ik.me: a free email address for life developed and hosted in Switzerland

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Post by smarx007 »

thdrdt wrote: post #34
smarx007 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

privacy !== anonymity

Privacy is the control to choose what kind of things about yourself you would like to expose. If that control is gone there is no privacy.

I agree with what you say. The difference is that you consider a provider your adversary when it comes to the task of that control and I consider a GDPR-respecting company to be my partner in that attempt (yes, I know who Snowden is) to control [what kind of things about yourself you would like to expose].

Re: Ik.me: a free email address for life developed and hosted in Switzerland

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Post by systemvoltage »

tjoff wrote: post #72
systemvoltage wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FastMail is an amazing company. Their UI is old school and packs a punch. Their mobile app is fantastic . They also invented some new JSON based email standard: https://jmap.io/

Last I tried their mobile app it was just an embedded web browser, quite the turnoff. Has that changed?

Haven’t had any problems with it. You’re right, it’s not native.

I’m a fan of their HTML style which is perhaps why I like their browser based email app.

Re: Ik.me: a free email address for life developed and hosted in Switzerland

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Post by mfsch »

dgiol wrote: post #16

Mmm, "privacy-friendly". It asks for a phone number (it's mandatory during sign up), which can only be obtained with an official ID...

They even ask you to download their proprietary app and send them a picture of your actual ID:

https://www.infomaniak.com/en/support/faq/2144/blocked-order

Re: Ik.me: a free email address for life developed and hosted in Switzerland

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Post by Fnoord »

monkin wrote: post #60
systemvoltage wrote: post #45

Folks - pay $5/month for Fastmail, Migadu, ProtonMail, or self host + your own domain name. Companies like this come and go, it’s a good chance you’ll still own the domain name. There is no such thing as free. They’ll nag you for hosting on their site. UI will degrade over time. Something will give, if not now, at some point in the future. Lifetime is a bold claim. I’m being cynical but this smells like an attempt to…

+1 for Migadu or ProtonMail, both offer great service, but Migadu with $19 yearly plan and amount of features is just incomparable to any other service.

ProtonMail (and ProtonVPN, ...) is unrealistically expensive.

Posteo [1] runs on green energy, and does support TOTP (in constrast to Migadu). 12 EUR/year.

[1] https://posteo.de

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