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Twitter may slow down users’ ability to ‘like’ tweets containing misinformation

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Re: Twitter may slow down users’ ability to ‘like’ tweets containing misinformation

#82
This seems very analogous to the wearing of masks to slow coronavirus. I'm glad they're doing this. The only things we should be discussing is how are 'serious viruses' identified and what mechanisms strike the best balance of freedom and safety.

Re: Twitter may slow down users’ ability to ‘like’ tweets containing misinformation

#83
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Twitter already has a replacement https://gab.com/

Gab is not a better alternative. For a thing to be a better alternative it would need to have structural differences that ensure it will not devolve as Twitter has. Gab is essentially a carbon copy of Twitter, but for a different set of ideas. Pleroma and Mastodon (as well as other ActivityPub enabled microblogging software) are the only real, better alternatives that exist right now.

Don't those have the same problem as Gab? How does federation prevent echo chambers and misinformation epicenters?

Re: Twitter may slow down users’ ability to ‘like’ tweets containing misinformation

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You still don't get it that _NO ONE_ can claim they know what is/is not fake news because everyone has their own incentives. This is precisely why it's important that Twitter calls out when things are stated as fact without evidence. Twitter never actually say things are fake; they say things are baseless and without evidence. If you want to post things that are influential you simply need to back that claim up with…

That would be fine if they didn't preferentially apply that call out only to certain groups of people.

Applying warning labels to influentials folks prone to lying is exactly the point

Re: Twitter may slow down users’ ability to ‘like’ tweets containing misinformation

#85
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Ironicaly you missed the most important point: who decides what is fake news? You still don't get it that _NO ONE_ can claim they know what is/is not fake news because everyone has their own incentives.

You still don't get it that _NO ONE_ can claim they know what is/is not fake news because everyone has their own incentives. This is precisely why it's important that Twitter calls out when things are stated as fact without evidence. Twitter never actually say things are fake; they say things are baseless and without evidence. If you want to post things that are influential you simply need to back that claim up with…

You are saying this as though we have standards now.

For example, I see plenty of people touting the idea that everyone should be nice to one another. This is becoming a meme in society. I see the shittiest people wishing others to be nice to one another. It's become a cognitive dissonance.

It is only matter of time till being "nice" becomes state mandated in a country (US) where if I want to be a piece of shit, I can be a piece of shit. A lot of people in the states seem to genuinely not understand this concept.

I genuinely suggest burning down twitter.

Re: Twitter may slow down users’ ability to ‘like’ tweets containing misinformation

#86
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Twitter already has a replacement https://gab.com/

In gab's case, the cure is worse than the disease

Of course it's worse

It's a refuge for the people too deplorable to survive on an actual reputable site.

Re: Twitter may slow down users’ ability to ‘like’ tweets containing misinformation

#87
I think recent events have really made the answer pretty objective. Though I abstractly love the fantasy of a community self-regulating and finding the truth through all the noise.

That said, when the losing candidate declares victory on a platform, then alleges fraud, citing nothing, it's not even really the time for abstract philosophy.

Re: Twitter may slow down users’ ability to ‘like’ tweets containing misinformation

#88
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You still don't get it that _NO ONE_ can claim they know what is/is not fake news because everyone has their own incentives. This is precisely why it's important that Twitter calls out when things are stated as fact without evidence. Twitter never actually say things are fake; they say things are baseless and without evidence. If you want to post things that are influential you simply need to back that claim up with…

You are saying this as though we have standards now. For example, I see plenty of people touting the idea that everyone should be nice to one another. This is becoming a meme in society. I see the shittiest people wishing others to be nice to one another. It's become a cognitive dissonance. It is only matter of time till being "nice" becomes state mandated in a country (US) where if I want to be a piece of shit, I ca…

I sense hate speech, you will be added to special list whose posts will be verified by group of people from city X which voted 90% for party X. You can either fall in line and align yourself with 9 media outlets or be "fact checked".

/s

Re: Twitter may slow down users’ ability to ‘like’ tweets containing misinformation

#89

"Show me the incentives and I'll show you the outcome." This whole ad driven attention economy is probably as dangerous of an invention as nuclear weapons. We're caught in a state of psychosis and individually none of us can do anything to fight the billions of dollars spent on advertising that tries to make us feel inadequate. Targeted ads and recommendation engines need to be banned. I know some people say they lik…

Lack of imagination is the problem.

I use a screen for coding work, HN breaks, shopping, civic life like bills, and the occasional stream binge. Outside work, maybe 5-10 hours week.

Otherwise I write creatively on paper, learned guitar, share digitally via point-to-point, and leave my house often for no reason most of the time.

Personally I have a hard time buying into anything you say being some sort of obligation, and more of a repeated hand me down habit.

Re: Twitter may slow down users’ ability to ‘like’ tweets containing misinformation

#90
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Regardless of your view on "misinformation", this sounds like a stupid idea that's meant to cover Twitter's butts in the short-term. The goal of any social platform should be healthy engagement. Where is the research that this change will foster that? Twitter isn't really the place to be testing half-baked ideas. Also, misinformation is coming from mainstream media as well as conspiracy theorists. At least conspiracy…

The election results are almost identically opposite this time around in swing states but suddenly no signs of russian interference anywhere. Imagine that.
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