A pacifist's plan to survive the violent world of prison

Post by coffeemaniac » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 10:01 PM UTC

sleavey wrote: post #16

sgt101 wrote: post #11

One horror is the length of sentence - 10 years for a non violent burglary.

I agree, it's crazy to take away ~1/7th of someone's life - during their most productive years - for theft. Are we to believe that it takes 10 years to "fix" someone of their theft problem? Did it take 10 years for them to form it? I expect in most cases the theft problem would go away at the same time as the drug problem the writer explains they had.

Post by lhorie » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 10:04 PM UTC

bigbubba wrote: post #70

lhorie wrote: post #65

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If you look at California, for example, you can literally verify that many registered sex offenders live just a few blocks away from any given person. The thing with prison mentality is that people forget that most crimes don't carry life sentences and that ex-cons eventually go back to the streets. So the question becomes how do you reconcile the secretly dark desire to wipe undesirables off the face of the earth fo…

That's a whole lot of words to not answer my question. Where would you put unrepentant rapists, if not in a prison?

Post by Broken_Hippo » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 10:10 PM UTC

Skunkleton wrote: post #76

saiya-jin wrote: post #67

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Last sentence is especially valid - decriminalization does absolutely 0 with organized crime earning tens of billions every year from all addictives. The same folks that deal in kidnappings, ransom, contract killing, weapons smuggling and many more. As a bonus health of patients(addicts) is not deteriorating so rapidly due to crap they take along with actual drugs, so bonuses go back to whole society in form of lower…

> Last sentence is especially valid - decriminalization does absolutely 0 with organized crime earning tens of billions every year from all addictives. The same folks that deal in kidnappings, ransom, contract killing, weapons smuggling and many more. Surely decriminalization is an improvement.

Post by tejtm » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 10:14 PM UTC

mprev wrote: post #73

klyrs wrote: post #53

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I'm a pacifist and a martial artist. My first approach is de-escalation. That has failed, and I've been attacked by people, and still did not want to hurt those people. Nor will I allow people to simply beat me up. I've defended myself by deflecting and avoiding their attacks, using their momentum against them and whatnot; and when necessary, various holds or joint locks. I've also successfully fled situations where…

Serious question but how do you get in so many situations that lead to violence?

Post by goatinaboat » Tue, Nov 10, 2020, 10:28 PM UTC

somebodythere wrote: post #40

99_00 wrote: post #10

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True, and our focus should be on correcting the societal failures that lead to people ending up there. Because prisons aren't going to away. But we can all agree that we should help people who need it.

The societal failings like prisons existing in the first place? The police and courts who supply a steady stream of fodder to the prison-industrial complex? The legislators who create innumerable and overbroad laws to give the above carte blanche to abuse vulnerable groups? By all means, let us get rid of all of these things.