Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Show HN: Please-unsubscribe.com – fwd emails to unsubscribe from marketing

please-unsubscribe.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

81–90 of 256 posts

Re: Show HN: Please-unsubscribe.com – fwd emails to unsubscribe from marketing

#81

Post by Icyphox »

arielm wrote: post #74

As someone who’s responsible for sending emails, all of the comments about “marking it as spam is easier than unsubscribing” really make me cringe. For several reasons: 1. If you subscribe to a list then please please please take the time to locate the very clearly marked unsubscribe link, or use the one that gmail or your other email client shows. I spend a lot of time making sure it’s suuuper easy to unsubscribe. 2…

Why send this crap in the first place? Do you think people actually care to read your HTML + tracking filled pile of junk? Sorry about the tone, but it really does irk me.

Re: Show HN: Please-unsubscribe.com – fwd emails to unsubscribe from marketing

#82

Post by bluedino »

arielm wrote: post #74

As someone who’s responsible for sending emails, all of the comments about “marking it as spam is easier than unsubscribing” really make me cringe. For several reasons: 1. If you subscribe to a list then please please please take the time to locate the very clearly marked unsubscribe link, or use the one that gmail or your other email client shows. I spend a lot of time making sure it’s suuuper easy to unsubscribe. 2…

“I keep marking them as spam, but I keep getting emails from Target. Why am I getting so much spam!?”

Those were fun helpdesk tickets to get.

Re: Show HN: Please-unsubscribe.com – fwd emails to unsubscribe from marketing

#83

Post by scrollaway »

Icyphox wrote: post #81
arielm wrote: post #74

As someone who’s responsible for sending emails, all of the comments about “marking it as spam is easier than unsubscribing” really make me cringe. For several reasons: 1. If you subscribe to a list then please please please take the time to locate the very clearly marked unsubscribe link, or use the one that gmail or your other email client shows. I spend a lot of time making sure it’s suuuper easy to unsubscribe. 2…

Why send this crap in the first place? Do you think people actually care to read your HTML + tracking filled pile of junk? Sorry about the tone, but it really does irk me.

Literally all he said was that he was "sending emails". You have no idea what he's sending.

Re: Show HN: Please-unsubscribe.com – fwd emails to unsubscribe from marketing

#84

Post by _jstreet »

arielm wrote: post #74

As someone who’s responsible for sending emails, all of the comments about “marking it as spam is easier than unsubscribing” really make me cringe. For several reasons: 1. If you subscribe to a list then please please please take the time to locate the very clearly marked unsubscribe link, or use the one that gmail or your other email client shows. I spend a lot of time making sure it’s suuuper easy to unsubscribe. 2…

So, I should navigate to an external webpage (which can include other forms of tracking) to unsubscribe from an email that was unsolicited? Personally, I'd rather just flag it as junk/spam.

Re: Show HN: Please-unsubscribe.com – fwd emails to unsubscribe from marketing

#85

Post by nikanj »

arielm wrote: post #74

As someone who’s responsible for sending emails, all of the comments about “marking it as spam is easier than unsubscribing” really make me cringe. For several reasons: 1. If you subscribe to a list then please please please take the time to locate the very clearly marked unsubscribe link, or use the one that gmail or your other email client shows. I spend a lot of time making sure it’s suuuper easy to unsubscribe. 2…

3. This is not an ad hominem, and I'm sure you're part of the 1%, but 99% of newsletters I receive are spam that I never wanted in the first place.

Companies employ a tremendous range of dark patterns to get my consent for email, then flood me with spam. Time after time I have unsubscribed from the "best products of the week"-newsletter, just to receive a "weekly product highlights"-newsletter the next day. According to the logic of the sending company, this is a completely different newsletter that I also have to unsubscribe from.

I mark all of them as spam. I'm sorry the 99% make life more challenging for you.

Re: Show HN: Please-unsubscribe.com – fwd emails to unsubscribe from marketing

#86

Post by nikanj »

scrollaway wrote: post #83
Icyphox wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why send this crap in the first place? Do you think people actually care to read your HTML + tracking filled pile of junk? Sorry about the tone, but it really does irk me.

Literally all he said was that he was "sending emails". You have no idea what he's sending.

It's like someone who says they're doing MLM. It's possible it's not snake oil, but it very probably is.

Re: Show HN: Please-unsubscribe.com – fwd emails to unsubscribe from marketing

#87

Post by graeme »

Icyphox wrote: post #81
arielm wrote: post #74

As someone who’s responsible for sending emails, all of the comments about “marking it as spam is easier than unsubscribing” really make me cringe. For several reasons: 1. If you subscribe to a list then please please please take the time to locate the very clearly marked unsubscribe link, or use the one that gmail or your other email client shows. I spend a lot of time making sure it’s suuuper easy to unsubscribe. 2…

Why send this crap in the first place? Do you think people actually care to read your HTML + tracking filled pile of junk? Sorry about the tone, but it really does irk me.

> If you subscribe to a list

You missed that key line. It may surprise you because you personally don’t do this, but regular people love signing up for email newsletters.

This is very different from email sent unexpectedly when you make an account somewhere. The OP was clearly talking about a list the user has asked to receive.

These tend to have fairly clear unsubscribe links in the footer.

Re: Show HN: Please-unsubscribe.com – fwd emails to unsubscribe from marketing

#88

Post by vntok »

arielm wrote: post #74

As someone who’s responsible for sending emails, all of the comments about “marking it as spam is easier than unsubscribing” really make me cringe. For several reasons: 1. If you subscribe to a list then please please please take the time to locate the very clearly marked unsubscribe link, or use the one that gmail or your other email client shows. I spend a lot of time making sure it’s suuuper easy to unsubscribe. 2…

If the recipient wants to unsubscribe after receiving an automated email, then by definition that mail was spam to them (literally unwanted mail). So marking that mail as "spam" is the correct thing to do, and nobody should care about the sender's feelings nor should they abide by the sender's pleas.

It is up to the sender (1) not to gaud people into subscribing to their newsletters in the first place, and (2) to send actually useful and interesting content to their subscribers.

Re: Show HN: Please-unsubscribe.com – fwd emails to unsubscribe from marketing

#89

Post by scrollaway »

_jstreet wrote: post #84
arielm wrote: post #74

As someone who’s responsible for sending emails, all of the comments about “marking it as spam is easier than unsubscribing” really make me cringe. For several reasons: 1. If you subscribe to a list then please please please take the time to locate the very clearly marked unsubscribe link, or use the one that gmail or your other email client shows. I spend a lot of time making sure it’s suuuper easy to unsubscribe. 2…

So, I should navigate to an external webpage (which can include other forms of tracking) to unsubscribe from an email that was unsolicited? Personally, I'd rather just flag it as junk/spam.

"if you subscribe to a list" makes it pretty clear that it was not unsolicited.

If you're receiving unsolicited marketing emails, that is the literal definition of spam.

Re: Show HN: Please-unsubscribe.com – fwd emails to unsubscribe from marketing

#90

Post by nikanj »

MattGaiser wrote: post #5

What kind of person needs 60 unsubscribes per month? That seems like an insane number of newsletters/marketing lists to be subscribed to. Even if they did need it, they wouldn't need it for more than 2-3 months.

Someone who was lucky enough that their email was scraped off of the internet at some point, and then sold and resold ad nauseum.
Post reply on HN