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Helsinki Relocation Package: City as a Service

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Re: Helsinki Relocation Package: City as a Service

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The only thing worse than mm-dd-yyyy is dd-mm-yyyy. Long live yyyy-mm-dd

"yyyy-mm-dd" and "dd-mm-yyyy" are both sorted - one descending, one ascendig. "mm-dd-yyyy" is just an arbitrary bag of entities, and a part of the population memorizes the order of them.

It's not completely arbitrary, it matches the way we write out full dates or speak then aloud. January 2nd, 1900 becomes 1/2/1900.

Re: Helsinki Relocation Package: City as a Service

#82
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This is honestly a great way for tech entrepreneurs to experience Nordic living. The fact is Finland has one of the most startup friendly environments around: — top schools (Aalto U. produces incredibly talented engineers) — startup friendly ecosystem (cheap rents, cheap internet) — Finnish work culture (direct, no nonsense, hard working but balanced) — fantastic food and beverage scene in downtown Helsinki My wife i…

Also: 24% VAT (sales tax) 18% employer payroll taxes 10% employee payroll taxes 20-30% typical income tax Take your American disposable income and cut it in half. Still worth it for 'free' education and 'free' healthcare? Also a lot of cold and darkness.

Yes. Come and live in a banana republic and it will be worth it.

Re: Helsinki Relocation Package: City as a Service

#83
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> Still worth it for 'free' education and 'free' healthcare? No brainer, absolutely worth it. Even making good money in Silicon Valley I'm perpetually afraid of medical bankruptcy if something were to happen. And the cost of education here takes another 15% off my salary for schools far lower quality than in Finland.

You're "making good money in Silicon Valley" and don't have health insurance? Are you freelancing and choosing not to purchase insurance?

You're assuming that whatever you're stricken with leaves you in good enough health to continue working.

Re: Helsinki Relocation Package: City as a Service

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Also: 24% VAT (sales tax) 18% employer payroll taxes 10% employee payroll taxes 20-30% typical income tax Take your American disposable income and cut it in half. Still worth it for 'free' education and 'free' healthcare? Also a lot of cold and darkness.

It is not like taxes disappear into a black hole never to be seen. Most of that money comes back to you in the form of services Americans would have to pay for anyway. What matters is what the taxes give you. A lot of American taxes don’t give people much of anything. Maintaining the worlds largest prison population is expensive but what exactly does that give the Average American? Worlds largest military also sucks…

> Worlds largest military also sucks up tax dollars but don’t give any benefits back.

It's easy to say a military is worthless until you actually need it. But, Finland was under Russian occupation for decades. I would guess plenty of Finns wished they had a better military then.

Re: Helsinki Relocation Package: City as a Service

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post #57

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> Still worth it for 'free' education and 'free' healthcare? No brainer, absolutely worth it. Even making good money in Silicon Valley I'm perpetually afraid of medical bankruptcy if something were to happen. And the cost of education here takes another 15% off my salary for schools far lower quality than in Finland.

You're "making good money in Silicon Valley" and don't have health insurance? Are you freelancing and choosing not to purchase insurance?

You're obviously not from the US.

In the US, they have this concept of a "pre-existing condition", and depending on your situation, a health insurance might cover it, or not, as far as I understand.

Even making good money in SV, you can still end up with a medical bankruptcy (or your family, for that matter).

Re: Helsinki Relocation Package: City as a Service

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Also: 24% VAT (sales tax) 18% employer payroll taxes 10% employee payroll taxes 20-30% typical income tax Take your American disposable income and cut it in half. Still worth it for 'free' education and 'free' healthcare? Also a lot of cold and darkness.

I live in Helsinki. People here are generally happy to pay the taxes to get all the good stuff from the goverment. I would personally support higher tax levels.

Personally I’m against higher tax: I’ve paid a lot in and gotten very little out.

Re: Helsinki Relocation Package: City as a Service

#88

I'm confused if this is for people that are already employed (aren't there tax implications for working in another country?) or for startup founders, or startup employees?

I think there may be tax implications since the company you work for might need to pay taxes to the country you are working in. This is the reason HR is not allowing me to work in another country even though I am 100% WFH right now due to COVID and thus physical location should not matter.

Re: Helsinki Relocation Package: City as a Service

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post #84

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It is not like taxes disappear into a black hole never to be seen. Most of that money comes back to you in the form of services Americans would have to pay for anyway. What matters is what the taxes give you. A lot of American taxes don’t give people much of anything. Maintaining the worlds largest prison population is expensive but what exactly does that give the Average American? Worlds largest military also sucks…

> Worlds largest military also sucks up tax dollars but don’t give any benefits back. It's easy to say a military is worthless until you actually need it. But, Finland was under Russian occupation for decades. I would guess plenty of Finns wished they had a better military then.

Which decades are you talking about? Finland was part of the Russian Empire between 1809 and 1917, but hasn’t been invaded since — although Stalin gave it a good shot.

Re: Helsinki Relocation Package: City as a Service

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post #57

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Also: 24% VAT (sales tax) 18% employer payroll taxes 10% employee payroll taxes 20-30% typical income tax Take your American disposable income and cut it in half. Still worth it for 'free' education and 'free' healthcare? Also a lot of cold and darkness.

> Still worth it for 'free' education and 'free' healthcare? No brainer, absolutely worth it. Even making good money in Silicon Valley I'm perpetually afraid of medical bankruptcy if something were to happen. And the cost of education here takes another 15% off my salary for schools far lower quality than in Finland.

>Even making good money in Silicon Valley I'm perpetually afraid of medical bankruptcy if something were to happen.

Let me get this straight - you are covered by medical insurance (assuming on "making good money"), and you're "perpetually afraid" that you will be forced in to bankruptcy after being treated for life threatening condition ? Not the fact that you'll first need to have a life threatening condition that requires a huge amount of money to treat, which you will need to overcome to get to the bankruptcy part, but the fact that you'll need to go through bankruptcy afterwards ?

I mean there are ways to hedge against that scenario if you have the money and are really afraid of it - maybe start treating family better and share your money so you have a support network to fall back to if you get in to such situations, or work on building it - going through those scenarios alone is going to suck without it - ignoring social safety net and economic factors.

You people make it seem like bankruptcy is worse than death.

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