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Re: Building an artificial sun that looks realistic [video]

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Don't forget that the volume of the device has a cost too. The video shows the construction of a really really nice, but takes up the whole hallway outside that room. Most of the time you'd probably prefer to use your hallway for walking in. On the other hand, maybe your house has an attic above one of your rooms that; there will be a lot less opportunity cost to using up that volume.

It is much easier to take broken lcd screen and remove diffuser. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8JrqH2oOTK4

That’s the same guy as this article link. This one is supposed to be an improvement over that.

Re: Building an artificial sun that looks realistic [video]

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Riding the coattails of your comment to ask the hive mind: any reason I shouldn't try to build the simpler version from the tutorial using a more powerful (100W) LED from Amazon? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T8RDF8F Might not be as awesome as a $60k CoeLux, but for 1000x less cost, maybe it's worth a shot? (Edit: come to think of it, with an 8x10 fresnel lens, it might be way too bright for the size.)

Don't forget that the volume of the device has a cost too. The video shows the construction of a really really nice, but takes up the whole hallway outside that room. Most of the time you'd probably prefer to use your hallway for walking in. On the other hand, maybe your house has an attic above one of your rooms that; there will be a lot less opportunity cost to using up that volume.

Use Fresnel lenses with a shorter focal length and reduce the depth.

It would be useful to start with a standard home-type window from, say, Home Depot, and build a unit about 120mm deep using multiple shorter focal length Fresnel lenses.[1] Then, in a basement or windowless room, mount some of these into a wall. Add curtains. Nice if your home office or workshop is in a basement.

This has commercial applications. Houses have few windowless rooms, but commercial structures have many.

[1] https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Fresnel-lens-plastic-...

Re: Building an artificial sun that looks realistic [video]

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post #37

How about one for moonlight? My room doesn't have windows, and the nightlights I've tried are too harsh and make it harder to go back to sleep after waking up in the middle of the night.

Coelux has one: https://www.coelux.com/en/news/coelux-moon-at-euroluce2017-2...

Re: Building an artificial sun that looks realistic [video]

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post #64

Why do fresnel reflectors seem to be so hard to find? Seems like they’d be a good option here.

Do you mean just the lens? There's one in each of those old school overhead transparency projectors. Those should be easy to find.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/592006-REG/Dry_Lam_50...

Re: Building an artificial sun that looks realistic [video]

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post #33

Seems like this idea could scale very well with more LEDs of lower wattage, like a local dimming array in TVs. That way 1. heat would be more evenly distributed reducing the need for large heatsinks 2. smaller fresnel lenses could be positioned much closer to the light reducing thickness 3. with a lot of LEDs there'd be a less noticeable grid at the edges of each fresnel lens from chromatic aberration. I'd totally bu…

Do they make "directional" or "angled" Fresnel lenses? Because you also really want the light to come out of the vertical window at something like a 45° angle downwards. The physics of it should be fine, I've just never heard of them being manufactured. And then just add a translucent blue diffusing layer on top. It seems highly commercializable.

I suppose you could buy a big Fresnel lens and then cut out a square near the side, and only use that; it would focus the light but also change the angle.

Re: Building an artificial sun that looks realistic [video]

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LEDs as you can see in the video aren't as efficient as you might think, since he has a HUGE heat sink / water pump system in place

you're missing the fact that that is the key point. the heat that is generated is not pointed at the person in front of the light. in photo/video, this is huge. talent/models don't sweat from standing in front of the lights. food products don't melt/wilt under the heat either. nobody really cares about the heat pointed away from the subjects.

For photography I agree. But if you're trying to create a "sun at home" because you don't have enough light/no chance to get sunlight, to feel the warm of the light can be nice...

Re: Building an artificial sun that looks realistic [video]

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Riding the coattails of your comment to ask the hive mind: any reason I shouldn't try to build the simpler version from the tutorial using a more powerful (100W) LED from Amazon? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07T8RDF8F Might not be as awesome as a $60k CoeLux, but for 1000x less cost, maybe it's worth a shot? (Edit: come to think of it, with an 8x10 fresnel lens, it might be way too bright for the size.)

Don't forget that the volume of the device has a cost too. The video shows the construction of a really really nice, but takes up the whole hallway outside that room. Most of the time you'd probably prefer to use your hallway for walking in. On the other hand, maybe your house has an attic above one of your rooms that; there will be a lot less opportunity cost to using up that volume.

I would advise to use some brass chassis for hot elements as fire accident may be more costly.

Re: Building an artificial sun that looks realistic [video]

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't forget that the volume of the device has a cost too. The video shows the construction of a really really nice, but takes up the whole hallway outside that room. Most of the time you'd probably prefer to use your hallway for walking in. On the other hand, maybe your house has an attic above one of your rooms that; there will be a lot less opportunity cost to using up that volume.

It is much easier to take broken lcd screen and remove diffuser. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8JrqH2oOTK4

the point of the parabolic reflector/fresnel versions are the parallel rays
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