I guess ultimately the real solution is not to consume what they're producing.
If you cease consuming what they're producing in the manner they disagree with, that's kind of their goal.
RIAA Obtains Subpoenas Targeting 40 YouTube-Ripping Platforms and Pirate Sites
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No they're winning slowly. Fifteen years back everyone I know could easily download mp3 from various p2p applications. But now the present generation of youngsters seem to think it is Spotify/Amazon or nothing. They haven't even heard of p2p. Similarly Netflix is slowly eating away at torrenting. The platform owners can and will tighten the noose gradually. End users and hackers have much less power than they like to…
If platforms tighten the noose, you'll see people gravitate back towards p2p. People stopped torrenting because Netflix and company made it extremely easy and more affordable to consume a wide range of media. Affordable enough that the hassle of torrenting was no longer worth it. If that changes, you'll see a resurgance.
Also, people haven't stopped torrenting at all in many parts of the world.
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The Youtube app has a download feature for watching videos offline.
Only available if you signed up for a premium account.
Premium also generously allows you to turn off the screen while listening.
Yeah, seeing that recently was a good reminder that my phone is not under my control.
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#84Here goes all the privacy-friendly ways to watch Youtube. Well, I guess it's a good thing : now we'll have to campaign to let content creators know how terrible their choice of platform is.
There is invidious which is an alternative front end for YouTube. It doesn't use the YouTube API or require a Google account. You can host your own instance or use one of the public ones[0]. It seems like the download button is broken but I was able to right click save a video.
[0] https://github.com/iv-org/invidious/wiki/Invidious-Instances
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
No they're winning slowly. Fifteen years back everyone I know could easily download mp3 from various p2p applications. But now the present generation of youngsters seem to think it is Spotify/Amazon or nothing. They haven't even heard of p2p. Similarly Netflix is slowly eating away at torrenting. The platform owners can and will tighten the noose gradually. End users and hackers have much less power than they like to…
But look, this is exactly because Spotify/Amazon/Netflix are responding to reality and providing media at a price point that reflects it. That's a desired outcome.
Will they keep providing the media like that once the threat from piracy is gone? Even right now most video platforms only offer the lowest quality to people on platforms free from DRM.
I can easily get a 4k h265 video packed in mkv to play on my Linux laptop. I haven't tested lately but a while back Netflix would serve 720p max.
Spotify has been very cool, going as far as delivering a .deb package and Ubuntu repo for their client. However, Rogan podcast doesn't work on Linux because it includes video. Will it before they go exclusive? Maybe, maybe not. I can easily youtube-dl the latest podcast and watch it on Linux.
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#86I guess ultimately the real solution is not to consume what they're producing.
If you cease consuming what they're producing in the manner they disagree with, that's kind of their goal.
Not really, they're a trade association; their core mission is to support the recording industry. Not consuming their output is the opposite of their goal.
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Blocking a topical news site because you don't like the topic... that's an interesting workplace. Perhaps they don't want you reading the news during work time, but it sounds like TF is blocked for you for false reasons.
The company doesn't explicitly block them, they use a product that does the blocking that includes torrentfreak in its "piracy" category.
This is typical of Bluecoat and the like.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
No they're winning slowly. Fifteen years back everyone I know could easily download mp3 from various p2p applications. But now the present generation of youngsters seem to think it is Spotify/Amazon or nothing. They haven't even heard of p2p. Similarly Netflix is slowly eating away at torrenting. The platform owners can and will tighten the noose gradually. End users and hackers have much less power than they like to…
If platforms tighten the noose, you'll see people gravitate back towards p2p. People stopped torrenting because Netflix and company made it extremely easy and more affordable to consume a wide range of media. Affordable enough that the hassle of torrenting was no longer worth it. If that changes, you'll see a resurgance.
If platforms tighten the noose, you'll see people gravitate back towards p2p.
Assuming there's something to go back to. General purpose computing has been limited by the rise of mobile. These devices are both limited by battery and CPU and more constrained in their abilities by tightly controlled operating systems.
And yet surprisingly many young people don't have anything better. Most still have laptops but it's also not a great hardware platform for torrenting.
Internet connections have been moving away from wires to more convenient but less spacious radio. And even wired connections are often degraded by carrier grade NATs.
Now, the very tools for gathering content are under assault. We need to act because a free and open Internet is not one of the laws of physics and corporations are capable opponents.
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Don’t forget building rockets to go to Mars.
That's literally one of the two high-prominence rich people who does something useful with their money (other being Gates and his charity efforts).
As much as I dislike him and dislike the idea of the privatization of space, Bezos is also funding a rocket company with his billions, Blue Origin.
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#90Let them subpoena, ultimately RIAA is a US entity pursuing civil suits under US laws, no one outside the US should really be worried. Within the US these sites and tools like YouTube-dl are arguably fair use and RIAA knows this, so they will be cautious when pursuing any litigation. It is like the trick the police use - carrying a knife for utility (cutting food, cutting wire, etc) is often not illegal, carrying a kn…
RIAA does liaise with its counterparts in several other major countries. Ultimately IP owners in all countries want to extract the last drop of profit and more. It is a common human tendency and the US is merely a vanguard of what will eventually be a global reality.
> It is a common human tendency and the US is merely a vanguard of what will eventually be a global reality.
No, it's not. The US is the one pushing other countries to implement US-like copyright laws, as it has a huge music and television entertainment industry and exports entertainment and propaganda to other countries. For most countries if they implement everything the US wants it will only hurt them economically, as they would have to pay more for disproportionally imported entertainment, and politically, as with that much control more propaganda will come from the US and generally forcing people to pay more for something is unpopular. Probably the only countries where local entertainment industries can potentially increase profits from such copyright laws are the countries that have huge music and tv entertainment industries to begin with, i.e. huge countries with large middle class. But those are few.