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Re: Covid: Belgian doctors with coronavirus asked to keep working

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Post by slaw » Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 3:50 PM UTC

jariel wrote: post #65

slaw wrote: post #47

Sweden and Belarus handled pandemic by not doing lockdowns. In Sweden for the last 3 months only 0-3 people a day die with covid-19. There is no second wave like in other European countries. https://covid19.who.int/region/euro/country/se

??? 1) The data you showed literally displays a full blown tidal wave 'second wave' hitting Sweden, 1500 cases/day in a country of 8M people and growing exponentially is absolutely a 'second wave'. Seriously, what are you looking at? That rate of expansion, if not controlled with further social modifications, will overwhelm the country in about 3 weeks. (Remember that quite some number of people need to be hospitaliz…

Scientists predict Sweden will be overwhelm in about 3 weeks for 6 months already. https://swprs.files.wordpress.com/2020/07/sweden-projection-...

Re: Covid: Belgian doctors with coronavirus asked to keep working

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Post by medium_burrito » Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 4:18 PM UTC

makomk wrote: post #75

mannykannot wrote: post #62

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Precisely - physical distance is not a relevant measure.

You're right that what actually matters is the number of people travelling between countries - social, rather than physical, geography - but for the most part actual physical distance from Italy seemed to be a good approximation of that, maybe with the exception of the UK and New York. The reason why Italy was the epicenter is a bit of a mystery though. There's hints they screwed up their Covid testing and managed, p…

There are more than a few entire factories run by Chinese and staffed by Chinese in Italy. That's your answer.

Re: Covid: Belgian doctors with coronavirus asked to keep working

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Post by jariel » Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 7:19 PM UTC

slaw wrote: post #81

jariel wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

??? 1) The data you showed literally displays a full blown tidal wave 'second wave' hitting Sweden, 1500 cases/day in a country of 8M people and growing exponentially is absolutely a 'second wave'. Seriously, what are you looking at? That rate of expansion, if not controlled with further social modifications, will overwhelm the country in about 3 weeks. (Remember that quite some number of people need to be hospitaliz…

Scientists predict Sweden will be overwhelm in about 3 weeks for 6 months already. https://swprs.files.wordpress.com/2020/07/sweden-projection-...

The data is right in your graph. Right now it's almost 1.5K infections per day, it's about a 3 week doubling rate. So 6K new infections / day in 3-6 weeks - at almost any % of those needing hospitalizations, they will be overwhelmed.

Whatever Sweden did at the end of June, where you can see a precipitous drop - they will obviously have to do again.

Re: Covid: Belgian doctors with coronavirus asked to keep working

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Post by m0zg » Wed, Oct 28, 2020, 1:08 AM UTC

disgruntledphd2 wrote: post #77

baud147258 wrote: post #70

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Was it claimed that it was under control in France? (it might have been said in the media, but I've mostly stopped following the news)

No, never really. What blows my mind is that the French haven't mandated work from home for all office-workers, even with the number of cases they are seeing. Essentially, the EU (in general) had a terrible first wave, and then said well we need the summer for our economies, and now we are paying the price for that.

Except for Sweden, which pre-paid.