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Re: Falling five storeys from a New York rooftop changed my life

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Post by sjg007 »

nickjj wrote: post #31
WJW wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really seems like a "hey nurse did this patient have their fentanyl yet?" would have resolved this issue. Anyway if it's really 100x more potent than morphine you'd think any person that did have it in their bloodstream would not be all that capable of stating that they have not had their medication yet.

> Really seems like a "hey nurse did this patient have their fentanyl yet?" would have resolved this issue. You'd be surprised at how questionable hospital care is run in NY, even with $450 / month insurance with a high deductible. To protect the privacy of the person I know, here's a story from 2-5 months ago: - Person A goes into doctor's office for something pretty common - Doctor requests cat scan or MRI (I forgo…

That sounds like malpractice but I dunno.

Re: Falling five storeys from a New York rooftop changed my life

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Post by raunakdag »

TaupeRanger wrote: post #79
aidenn0 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

100% of the people that don't survive never try again either though.

What's your point? The post you replied to is just saying "of people that survive, most wish they wouldn't have tried it." If the sample is indeed random, that means most who didn't survive would feel the same way.

I think he was making a joke. :)

Re: Falling five storeys from a New York rooftop changed my life

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Post by trhway »

WJW wrote: post #3
mpalmer wrote: post #2

The most pressing issue for the orthopaedic team was my left shoulder, which was visibly dislocated. Before attempting to reattach it, the doctor told me I would be given a dose of fentanyl: an opioid that is up to 100 times more potent than morphine. He went away, returned and started using a bed sheet to try to pop the shoulder back into the socket. Alarmed, I told him that I had not been given any pain medication.…

Really seems like a "hey nurse did this patient have their fentanyl yet?" would have resolved this issue. Anyway if it's really 100x more potent than morphine you'd think any person that did have it in their bloodstream would not be all that capable of stating that they have not had their medication yet.

>Really seems like a "hey nurse did this patient have their fentanyl yet?" would have resolved this issue.

i somehow think that a medical doctor should be able to tell whether a person has an opioid [at least in a pain relieving dose] in their system.

Re: Falling five storeys from a New York rooftop changed my life

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Post by sjg007 »

admiral33 wrote: post #16
papeda wrote: post #4

From the end of the article: > To come so close to death does not provide a shortcut to wisdom or contentment. It doesn’t answer all your questions or eliminate your weaknesses. I’m fundamentally the same person I was before, but with one big difference. I’m viscerally aware how tenuous our existence is. How you can be walking on solid ground only to find it suddenly disappear from beneath you. The meaning comes in w…

There's a whole market for that. Roller coasters, haunted houses/corn maze etc. They get people as close to the edge of that feeling as possible. They won't get that full effect though because people know they are safe. If you wanted to get the full effect you need to break the illusion that customers signed up for midway through. Convince riders that the roller coaster is broken while they're still going full speed.…

Go parachuting. The split second before the chute catches is something else.. terrifying. Especially if you tandem jump. I imagine bungee jumping is similar.

Re: Falling five storeys from a New York rooftop changed my life

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Post by oumua_don17 »

Dahoon wrote: post #41
Tronno wrote: post #28

Reading this gives me flashbacks of my own fall from about 45 feet, which broke my spine, pelvis, and ankle. The initial days after the surgery were confusing, painful, and scary. If the fractures had been another half inch to the right, I would have been paralyzed for life. Indeed, I lost control over my bowel functions, and for a few agonizing days was unclear if I would ever get them back. I learned how to insert…

After i was cured from cancer I also got another look on life. One thing I did was get a motorcycle again and I left my girlfriend. Better to enjoy life right now than live in the future (dreaming of when/if). Now I got another girlfriend and know real love and ride motorcycles with her. Wish I woke up earlier though but better late than never!

A wise man once said “a good partner brings happiness. A bad partner brings wisdom. Take your pick and go for a ride” :)

Re: Falling five storeys from a New York rooftop changed my life

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Post by JackFr »

lumberingjack wrote: post #26

Working in residential construction since the 1980s I've seen several people fall from that height. None of them injured all of them were not direct falls most of them were scrapes along walls. I've also seen way more people fall from step ladders two or three feet tall and get injured worse. One case in the early 90s a painter exterior work about 32 ft tall fell from maybe 26 ft his primary concern was not spilling…

A construction worker friend was working about 40 feet up on an extension ladder when the base went out. He said the hard part was resisting the urge to jump off, but they had been taught (correctly) that all jumping will do is increase the rate of falling. He rode it to the ground and was ok.

Re: Falling five storeys from a New York rooftop changed my life

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Post by watertom »

ReactiveJelly wrote: post #43
klyrs wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is one of the most pernicious aspects of the opioid crisis. Doctors are taught to be hypervigilant regarding "drug seeking behavior" which is pretty much a 1:1 list of behaviors of people whose suffering is "genuine." Number one criteria seems to be that the patient is requesting medication. In so many cases, the patient is the most reliable source of information... but when it comes to pain management, the pati…

> Doctors are taught to be hypervigilant regarding "drug seeking behavior" which is pretty much a 1:1 list of behaviors of people whose suffering is "genuine." Slate Star Codex wrote about this: https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/09/16/against-against-pseudo... Basically, an addict wants to look genuine, so a lot of genuine patients have to put up with stuff designed to cut off addicts. Like the scary "FBI warning" that…

Flinging yourself from a 5 story building in order to “look genuine” get fentanyl must be pretty common in NYC.

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Post by TwoBit »

rootusrootus wrote: post #49
everydayDonut wrote: post #42

I don't understand how he takes no meaning out of this. The meaning is clearly that there shouldn't be a gaping hole on the top of a 5 story building that people can access. Or at least that you shouldn't walk around a building you're not familiar with at night. Anyone who thinks there's no meaning to take from these kind of events is wasting a huge opportunity to learn that small things like a gap in a roof can mean…

> The meaning is clearly that there shouldn't be a gaping hole on the top of a 5 story building that people can access. Or at least that you shouldn't walk around a building you're not familiar with at night. Looking at the pictures, I'd vote for another option. The roof of that building isn't designed for casual use. The wall around the edge of the building is calf-height with no railing. What they're doing is likel…

How do you know it's calf height? Did I miss that in this classically drawn out prose? There's a picture with him leaning over a ~4 foot high ledge. That ledge wasn't it?

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Post by ce4 »

yellowstuff wrote: post #21
papeda wrote: post #4

From the end of the article: > To come so close to death does not provide a shortcut to wisdom or contentment. It doesn’t answer all your questions or eliminate your weaknesses. I’m fundamentally the same person I was before, but with one big difference. I’m viscerally aware how tenuous our existence is. How you can be walking on solid ground only to find it suddenly disappear from beneath you. The meaning comes in w…

I don't have hard statistics, but there's a New Yorker article about survivors of Golden Gate Bridge suicide attempts that says many of them regret the attempt and don't try again. The people who survive jumping off a bridge is probably pretty close to a random sample. https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:V_siZl...

There's also a 2006 documentary titled "the bridge" about the same topic. The real footage is not for the faint of heart, though.
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